I was wondering how well these machies run right now I use micky sharpz and micky Bs and would next generation machines be a solid investment and well worth it

Hello how are you? i am considering purchasing machines from next gen....but i just read your comment though on machines from pulse...i'm curious why you like them better than next gen, and which machines did you buy from pulse? also, what other machines have you tried and liked or disliked? i currently have a coastal and national swing gate for liners, and a time machine ( which i don't care for, it is very tempermental ) and a technical sharps which i do like very much. it'd be great to hear from you, thanks!

i own an orion half coil machine from next gen, the machines are a pain to tune, and seem to always need adjusting. stroke length is limited also....i wasted 300 bucks. Dringenberg machines are the way to go!

Those half coils are made for a specific job, not an everyday workhorse. I use Time Machine & Seth Ciferri, love it!... I actually owned a Next Gen, I sold it, it's just too heavy for me, but it's a nice solid machine, hits just right & less vibration compare to mickys

I have an orion and an 2 eclipse (steel and alumium), they run great for me, I replaced the springs they came with for 18/18 from eikon.

I also own Pulse machine, my fav is my "gatsby" for color/ shading. I also use an "Specialist" for line work.

The difference between both is that next gen machines use t-cores and they are prefav, they hit really hard without hesitating. Pulse machines are a one piece gear.

In the end if you know what you are doing you'll be able to work with any of them.

If you want to but a good machine and not spend a lot of money buy A machine kit from Workhorse Irons or one of the machine kits from Eikon. I own a machine from both and use them everyday. You can get them for under $200 that's including shipping.

I chose to go with an alluminum machine for the wieght, my friend gave me a liner and shader from next generation. I enjoy them. although they do need adjusting now and then, I feel that they are pretty reliable. Ive never had any problems and would like to get another set- but the price!

actually dude micky sharpz is hard to beat, but the next gen are good machines if you know how to set them up. get one, the half coils are awesome

Madtatter, I agree that Micky Sharpz are good machines IF and ONLY IF you em with a low serial number . The machines they have been putting out for the past couple years are just shit...bad geometry, horrible finishes and the cheapest components they can get.

Like a lot of companies who enjoy big sucess they let it go to their heads, got greedy and started putting out quantity instead of quality.

Next Gen are far better in my opinion.

What about Time Machine?

Fallen King Irons are the best machines :D specially
The Wasp - Shader

Looks good Fallen, what's the weight of this baby?... Also, I have a Workhore "Seth Ciferri" machine, it's alreay showing some rust on some spots, can I fiel it & paint over it??? Please advice... Thanks.

You can do several things:
One is to metal brush it and then heat treat it with a torch and deep it in oil.
Don't get it red because then the frame will build up carbon on the surface.

You can also metal brush it and blacken it.
I use chemical blacken for my machines. Do some research online regarding this product.

Don't paint it unless you like the paint finish

But I can paint it, right? The paint won't wear on the constant vibration? What kind of paint can I use? Sorry for all these questions... How much does your machines weigh???

ive got a few next gen machines and they run great for me and haven't had to adjust them much at all. lucky i guess! i really want a dan dringenberg though!!!

I own three Next Gen, they are precision machines, built to last.
You can go wrong with t-cores, their machines run and run.
Some models are a bit heavy due to the frame architecture, wide abars, t cores, wide vise tube, and double side plate instead of the conventional single side plate.
Great machines for all jobs. Easy to tune IMO

i like my next gens. good machines a lil tuning aint gunna kill ya now and then but if u looking for another machine danny knight or a infinite irons if ur going for the price tag good machines for the price

my problem with nextgen machines is simple. Brass conatct points. I believe this is to be their only fault, its their cause for their inconsitancy and constant tuning. I used to have to move the contact point to get a clean surface during a tattoo constant and was ALWAYS filing down the contact point.

Switch it over to bronze or silver. and its a rock solid machine. Brass is a soft metal and creates alot of carbon buildup between the spring and the contact point quickly. next Gen uses Eikon contact points.

yeah....

I like next gen I owned three.
The only problem is that they are way bulk, heavy and I'm not a fan of prefav machines.
Also they design the top binding post mount way too short that means that there is very little room to extend the contact screw if you want a big stroke.
I don't know if every next gen is like that but this is the case with my three machines
I owned. In on of them the spring was almost over the binder.

They run really good, I just never saw the need for 1/2" cores and abars.

Hotspark Machines!I use them every day.