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What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by The Scabs on 01/12/04

I have been wanting to buy a good set-up to start tattooing, but I am confused buy all the different kit combinations. I would like to get something that will get me started and be a good set-up if I start to tattoo for work.

What would you recommend as a good set-up?

And is there any other way to sterilize without an autoclave?
KInda expensive for a beginner. Ya know?



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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by gabe on 01/12/04

Tattooing isnt something a beginner should tkae lightly. You should take your artwork around and find a studio to apprentice you. Ask them what you need to get started. It may be a long and tedious proccess, but you will learn more than you can on your own, the right way (without hacking up people for years. Tattooing isnt something you should just jump into. Lets see a link to some of your artwork!

good luck.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by The Scabs on 01/12/04

I wasn't planning on hacking anyone. I'm not going to touch anyone until I have enough practice on practice skin. I was a fine art major and really just want to get used to the difference in medium before trying to apprentice anywhere. I'm sure it will be a long process but I would like to get a basic set-up to start somewhere. so no suggestions?
Sorry no art work online presently, but FYI, I do tend to lean toward surreal portraiture and illustration.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by gabe on 01/14/04

You really should get your apprenticeship first, and then have your artists show you what equipment to get and how to use it. Learning how to tattoo yourself will lead to many bad pracitces and mistakes that can be avoided.

Sounds like your into fun artwork, and I love that style of tattooing. Good luck, and find yourself an expert in tattooing to learn from. Learingin from the internet is not the best way to learn to tattoo. Learn from an expert.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by The SCABS on 01/15/04

Fair enough. I will go down to the local shop and look into it. Thanks.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by gabe@tattooNOW.com on 01/15/04

Make sure they are good! Where abouts do you live?


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by The Scabs on 01/23/04

Southern California. Huntington Beach to be exact.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by gabe on 02/05/04

There are some fantastic studios in southern california. Lets see a link to your artwork man.

Also, folks, the scabs have great politics, go to their website now and check out some great political tunes. they say great things.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by The SCABS on 02/06/04

Thanks for the props on the band... Ahh still trying to get my work online I will have it up soon.. I'll let ya know as soon as I can.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by snothead on 05/07/04

Why don't you answer The Scabs question. What equipment do you need to get started. Just because people don't know how to tattoo doesn't mean they are stupid.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by gabe on 05/08/04

your right, just because someone doesnt know how to tattoo doesnt not make them stupid. HOWEVER, the internet is NOT the place to learn how to tattoo. You are marking people for life. Find a great tattoo studio and get an apprenticeship. When you are tattooing people who will wear your art forever, dont fuck around. Learn the right way.

In any event, I will NEVER answer questions about how to tattoo. I am a computer geek who loves the art, not a tattoo artist. So relax, you dont want me answering the question.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by tatr999 on 06/04/04

Here's a list of some supplies you need...Remember the most important thing is the Autoclave...You shouldn't even pick up a tattoo machine unless you have an Autoclave and everything you have is properly Sterilized...That's what gets me laughing everytime I see an Ad that offers Tattoo Kits with everything you need to get started tattooing and they have everything but an Autoclave. And it's not something that you can say I'll get it later when I start tattooing others. You need it period. You'll also need to get a book on the Health related issues in your area. I'm in Ontario, Canada and here we buy a book from Health Canada that discusses all you need to know medically about tattooing. It tells all about cross-contamination and blood born pathegons and much more. It even gives you information about what is needed to open a tattoo shop. Here in Ontario you need an inspection done by the Health Board to verify your shop is being maintained properly and following all the proper Sterilization Rules. They make sure you've been doing your Spore tests on time and shit like that. You then get a Certificate from them to put up on your wall or wherever you choose. Getting back to the Supplies you need, here you go:
Firstly you need an Autoclave.
Then you'll want at least 2 tattoo machines. One for Lining and One for Shading & Colouring(Canadian Spelling). You're tattoos will only be as good as the equipment they're done with, so you'd want to get yourself quality machines.
I'd look for machines from Bernhard's Garage Iron's found here: http://www.tat2forum.com/BBBgarage_Iron.htm
http://www.finelinetattoos.com/texasmain.html
Or something from Micky Sharpz.
You'll need Tubes(Barrels) in different size configurations for your Tattoo Machines.
Next you'll need a good Power Supply, something around 0-12V @ 2 Amps. I myself have an Eikon Device EMS200 found here: http://www.eikondevice.com/catalogue/index.cfm?catid=40&prodid=172
Works like a charm. Excellent power supply and can keep the exact same settings every time you use your equipment.
Then you need a clipcord and foot pedal to run the machines.
You'll need an Ultrasonic for vibrating shit off the Tubes.
Then you obviously need inks(Pigments). I myself prefer StarBrite Colours but most artist have different preferences gained over years of tattooing as to what they like. Also, many mix their own colours.
Next in line you'll need Ink Caps and a Cap Holder.
You'll also need Needles. They can be bought pre-made in any configuration you need or you can buy Jigs to make them yourself. It is a lot cheaper to make them yourself. Were talking about $6.00/Needle Canadian to buy pre-made or about $ .10 each to buy them in bulk and make them yourself. And about $1.00 per needle bar but the Needle Bars can be Sterilized and re-used.
That's about all you need other than little things.
You'll need all thing to do with the Autoclave...Like Spore Tests, Utensils for handling stuff for the Autoclave. You'll need Bags & Wraps for your Tattoo Machine & Clipcord. You may need Paper Towels, Vasoline, Dettol, Gloves, Nipples or Grommets, Carbon Paper(Spirit Master Paper) for doing up stencils, Alcohol, Tongue Depressors, Sharps Container, Tube Cleaning Brushes, Soldering Kit, Solder(lead-free), Flux(lead-free), Spray Bottles and Flash or Custom Drawings. That's about it.
I may have forgotten a thing or two but this is pretty much all that is needed to get started in tattooing other than some Trusting or Crazy Clients....lol...
Hope this helps and what you were looking for...I know it's hard to find artist willing to divulge any info at all on tattooing but I've been at it for 14 years now and I had to learn lots myself and find it bullshit that nobody wants to help out unless they can charge you exorbinate amounts of money for an apprentiship. I also know most people wanting to learn to tattoo are going to try it whether or not someone tells them to go get an apprentiship or not, so at least I'll help them learn what is needed to get started but also hope they listen to the first part about the Autoclave as that's the most important part of tattooing yet most beginners figure they can do without it until they get good at tattooing because of the cost of it. Believe me, it's a little more expensive to end up with Hep C or HIV, if you have any care for your clients, you'd make sure the Autoclave was the first thing on your list.
Once you get into tattooing there's money to be made(that's why most people decide they want to tattoo, figuring it's fast easy money) if you become good at it. You'll have more than enough to buy an Autoclave so I figure, why not borrow money for one off of family or a friend and get one right away, then when you start tattooing you'll have no trouble getting the cash to pay them back...Anyway, gotta go...Good luck,

Aaron Raymond


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by HHH on 05/27/05
Sydney

Great info tatr999.

Not sure but tatt apprenticeships don't pay, do they? And I've heard of people having to pay to do them - is this right?

Ta!!!

HHH


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by CANADA SUCKS on 05/27/05
USA

THIS IS WHY I HATE CANADA just because you can follow guide lines does not make one a tattoo artist thats like saying everyone that owns a paint brush is a fine artist.you want to support backyard tattooist then do it in canada not here.we all have to start somewere but im sick of this .people who are just giving away info online its like you dont even have to put in effort anymore.you just go to your computer punch in i wanna tattoo and blamo some idiot is spilling his guts!well guess what apprentiships are real WHEN YOU TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK FOR THEM!and you should pay to learn a trade thats going to make you money the rest of your life.youve been tattooing for 14teen years then support your fellow tattooist that are working to keep this industry going.dont just give info to any idiot with a computer or says there good at art.the goal is to discurage the ones who dont really want it and enbrace the ones willing to work for it!


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by gabe on 05/27/05

that is why you hate canadians? What the fuck??? People should NOT be learning to tattoo online, but taking advice from some anyoymous racist poster is just as silly.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by gabe on 05/27/05

I would encourage people who want to learn to tattoo search the archives for "apprentice" and read through all the past discussions. The main gist, the way I see it, is a tattoo artist needs to dedicate themself to an art that is permently on someones body, which is not a task to be taken lightly(to say the least). The art of the tattoo is all about thoughtful consideration and taking time to learn things *before* jumping into them. Before you get the perfect tattoo, you need to be very thoughtful about why you want a tattoo, what it means, and whos style you would like to see your vision realized by. As a tattoo artist, you need to be talented and really work your ass off to make sure you provide the best possible serivce, both artistically and technically, to insure the client has a unique piece of artwork on their body that will last. The best way to learn this is by getting tattooed by the bestest and nicest tattoo artists you can find that suit your style and by having a portfolio that is constantly getting better. As you are getting the best tattoos you can afford, you are learning how reputable people apply their trade. your art should progress immensily, and as you get more work done, you will get an idea of who you would like to study with.

If your artwork truely insipres people, and you are running around the tattoo world, then oppertunities will present themselves. In the end, to get a quality apprenticeship you need to have artwork that truely inspires people and know enough about the industry to find a quality mentor, so the failsafe strategy to becomeing a tattoo artist is to be drawing constantly and always getting better at your art. Because you love tattoos, you will be naturally around the tattoo culture so it will work in the end. You might need to pay, you might have to draw your ass off, nothing is free, but there are a zillion deals and in the end, its all about your art. Besides, the strongest position to be in is to work so hard that eventually people notice and come to you. Patience. Go draw some more. And read the archives to see what other people have to say.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by chrononaut7 on 07/13/05
ky

ok, newsflash dude. Tattoo artist do not want MORE competition. So unless one of them is a good buddy of yours your probably screwed. If you dont want to move to another city and do an apprenticeship (probably having to invest 100s of dollars) right away. Read Huck Spauldings Tattooing a-z, he explains what you do and do not need. I once went around town and asked a bunch of artist about how to get started and showed them mt art. They all said to get this bogus apprenticeship, but when I asked them how THEY got started, all but one said" welll hell dude i just bought the gun and started doing them" . Go figure. You wont find tattoo artists in general very eager to add to the ranks MORE tattoo artists.Thats just the sad fact dude. So get the book.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by naptowntattoo@yahoo.com on 07/13/05

Man listen......theres more to it than just pickin' up a machine and drawing pictures..it's multi-faceted and very difficult to do well consistently...tuning the machine is difficult enough..it doesn't run the way you need it to until you know what it's SUPPOSED to do...the body has various skin textures and each should be handled differently,ankles different than stomach ,inside of arm different from outside ...on and on...you need to become acquainted with living breathing quality tattoo artists...you will shortcut a lot of bad work on your part if you will take the time to be around and observe hours and hours of tattooing...find someone whos work blows your mind and get extensive work..more than likely you'll earn the right to visit on the days you are not being tattooed and you can watch some more....you don't need to ask a thousand questions at first ,just observe and soak it in ..let what you see distill in you and you'll be ready to ask good questions after awhile


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by Green Devil on 07/31/05
lomita,CA,USA

what equipment do I need for a tattoo?


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by Bethsnshne on 08/01/05
Fl

Okay NewsFlash........there are artist out there willing to take on appentices. No they do not pay you, but not all charge you for your education. Yes, you need to have money up front for your own equipment.( do you really expect your mentors to buy the equipment for you?) I happen to know of a shop in my area that currently has 2 apprentices, no they are not paid and yes they do a lot of work (building needles, outlines, etc...) but they are learning alot and learning the correct way to tattoo. Even if you put the talent aside for a moment there are alot of health risks for the artist and client and one should know the proper procedures to protect the client and oneself. Look at it like continuing your education, most adults who go back to school, work a day job and go to school at night. No one pays them, and they pay tuition and for they're own books. So find the right artist, buy your own equipment and be thankful you can do something you are passionate about and not stuck in a dull classroom.
Oh yeah one more thing, I know the artists at the shop I go to tip out their apprentices. So they do get some monetary benefit.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by kev7572002 on 09/27/05
england

IF YOU CAN DRAW AND YOU GOT BALLS YOU CAN TATTOO YOURSELF YOU WILL LEARNE QUICK YOU CAN BUY A BASIC KIT ON EBAY IVE BEEN COLOURING MYSELF IN NOW FOR 6 MONTHS AND I AM GETTING GOOD NOW STRAIGHT LINES AND COLOURING IN IT TAKES TIME MATE
GOOD LUCK


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by jimk on 09/30/05
Vero beach,florida

First time here.I bought a kit from spaulding & rogers about 5 years ago.Been doing it ever since.Am pretty good,but not good enough.Nobody within 50 miles wants an apprentice,Of courseI did nothit allthe shops,there are some pretty crappy ones around,too.So I'm just going to keep doing my best untill I am.I have done a ton of tats for friends and thier friends etc.,but it takes years and many don't want to give away thier secrets.I don't really blame them.How many times have you seen someone teach somebody thier craft only to have that person go out and doit on thier own or work for someone else to make that person money.I would love an apprenticeship,but I don't blame anybody if I don't get one.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by jerry rubio on 10/26/05
van nuys ca. united states

what do i need to start a tattoo business


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by Foy on 10/29/05
Florida

I would fully agree that it should be not taken lightly to jump into wanting to become a tatto artist. I give much respect to gabe. I was on this forum a few months back with a post on doing custum tat designs. I took alot of criticizim. Some for my spelling lol. But i took it seriously. I myself have wanted for a long time to become a tattoo artist and as much as it stung to be critisized. They were right. Im still learning i spend hrs on hrs researching everything i can about dooing tattoos. From the art, the safty,The machines and haw they work and are built. I will go in someday when i feel ready to become an apprentice. If your serious. be serious and take advise and learn all you can ,practice your line work,composition,and learn all you can about the safty of tattoos and much more. Before you go for the apprenticeship. I know theres alot more to it than i ever thought.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by Lilith70 on 11/06/05
Wyoming

I can easily see both sides of the argument, and they each have good points.

However...

As an artist considering making the foray into the tattooing world myself, I want to know before I make the investment of time and money what I'm getting into. I want to know about the risks (blood-borne pathogens, cross-contamination dangers, legal liabilities, etc.), and I want to know about the procedures. I want to get a rough idea of what the best equipment is and how much it costs so that I determine if it's worth it to make that much of an investment.

But, as a consumer, I want to know that artists that work on me have "paid their dues" and done at least as much work as I intend on putting into it. I expect that if an artist has done a nice, long, grueling apprenticeship, they should have demonstrated that they have the passion, discipline, and training to make a good go of it, without endangering me or rendering crappy work.

Having the information available for people to look over, from my point of view, actually can encourage a weeding-out of people who might pester the hell out of an artist for an apprenticeship, only to discover that it's WORK and, viola, they disappear, wasting everyone's time. Likewise, someone who can't get an apprenticeship for whatever reason should have access to information so that if they decide they absolutely must tattoo, they can put themselves in a position to NOT endanger the general public.

You can't stop the signal.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by Lilith70 on 11/06/05
Wyoming

I can easily see both sides of the argument, and they each have good points.

However...

As an artist considering making the foray into the tattooing world myself, I want to know before I make the investment of time and money what I'm getting into. I want to know about the risks (blood-borne pathogens, cross-contamination dangers, legal liabilities, etc.), and I want to know about the procedures. I want to get a rough idea of what the best equipment is and how much it costs so that I determine if it's worth it to make that much of an investment.

But, as a consumer, I want to know that artists that work on me have "paid their dues" and done at least as much work as I intend on putting into it. I expect that if an artist has done a nice, long, grueling apprenticeship, they should have demonstrated that they have the passion, discipline, and training to make a good go of it, without endangering me or rendering crappy work.

Having the information available for people to look over, from my point of view, actually can encourage a weeding-out of people who might pester the hell out of an artist for an apprenticeship, only to discover that it's WORK and, viola, they disappear, wasting everyone's time. Likewise, someone who can't get an apprenticeship for whatever reason should have access to information so that if they decide they absolutely must tattoo, they can put themselves in a position to NOT endanger the general public.

You can't stop the signal.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by jjBiggs on 11/06/05

I think its pretty much a joke about a tattoo artist putting in his dues. Just because someone treats you like shit while they teach you doesn't mean that you will be a better tattoo artist. You either have the skill and the natural born ability to draw(and formal art training does make a huge differance)or you don't. As far as washing and waxing someones car and taking a bunch of shit from someone else, i think thats a bunch of bullshit. The reason they do that is because they are tattoo artist and they never had or ever will have a job at an office or business where they actually had someone to supervise and they want to feel powerful, when in fact they are just tattoo artist(trashy, dirty and never pay there bills on time. and YES most of them DO drugs...FACT...) ...........but i still like tattoos, its just the tattoo artists that think there shit don't stink that pisses me off....Miami Ink, H&H and now since those shows come out its like American Chopper, they think its cool to treat there workers like shit...ITS ALL BULLSHIT


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by Lilith70 on 11/06/05
Wyoming

Again, not going to argue with you on your points - you seem to have a pretty strong opinion there - but making generalizations neither helps the industry nor the topic of this thread (specifically, what kind of equipment a starter needs).

I've had formal art training, and I've worked in offices, and I've travelled, and I've done a minimal amount of drugs (way in the past), but my bills are ALWAYS paid on time, I'm a mom, three kids, married, happy... does this mean I *can't* be a tattoo artist? Or is it more that the person I'm looking to apprentice under is a terrific, respectful guy who's will to take my "payment" for my studies in the form of "volunteer work", lubing, bandaging, advising, counseling, and cleaning the shop? Does that mean I won't be a "real" tattoo artist?

Seriously, even in a profession such as this, it's really very important to remember to assess each artist/practitioner on a very individual basis, which is especially the point to be made in terms of making the RAW INFORMATION available to those interested in being tattoo artists. If someone is dumb enough to tolerate an apprenticeship where they're treated like crap, that has nothing to do with the apprenticeship - it has to do with a power-tripping asshole, and with the apprentice ALLOWING themselves to be abused.

Informed people will make informed choices, and informed choices force the whole profession to a higher level of standards. At least, that's the way it's *supposed* to work.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by snippy from IP: 72.57.173.153 on 01/26/06
Canada

Hey your an artist. Get your shit together. Haul your ass over to ebay. Lots of starter equipment there. Buy the kit get lots of practice tattoo skin. Relax and do your thing become zen like. Teach yourself take your time. I would be glad to let a self taught guy tat me. If he keep things sterile and had artistic talent. Hell the best tattoos I have. Were done by a self taught guy. Be safe be clean and just do it. You wont be a hacker if you practice. And when you think your good enough. Plant some ink on yourself. If it looks like hell. Then stick to painting pictures. And dont hack the unaware.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by Dusk from IP: 81.159.230.4 on 01/26/06

I searched for ages for my apprenticeship. Every studio did'nt wanna know. Until I met a guy who was tattooing my mate. This guy was unlike all other artists i'd met previously. He gave me all the guideance and advice I needed. The best thing I did is spend £1500 on the best possible gear. I picked out a design and tattooed my own leg. It turned out very good for a first tat. The colouring was better than an artist who worked on me, and that's with his 10 years experience. Forget fake skin, there's nothing like working on real skin, you need to feel how it moves, how to stretch the skin, at what depths to work at to get best results, get to know your machines and what you can do with them. It's not rocket science, just buy your equipment and get to know it.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by sk8noe@aol.com from IP: 72.244.112.25 on 01/26/06
los angeles

well i bought my self a tat kit and i tat my self freinds oranges any thing for practice i read alot and i c my self getting better
and would be great if some would give me tips. thanks


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by keepinitreel4u2c@yahoo.com from IP: 70.105.190.59 on 01/26/06

Wow. It has officially become a forum where scratchers can throw around brand names. Congrats, Mods!


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by Dan Henk from IP: 68.194.195.17 on 01/26/06
Long Island

Wow, I can't believe I just read all that.
We're all scumbags and drug users huh? Fuck you too.
The reason most artists don't take apprentices is they are notorious flakes, even when they pay (which is way less than college, and will get you a job that pays more than most college jobs).
Probably 99 out of 100 people that want to tattoo bring in artwork that my ferret could draw better, brag about how they've scratched up their friends and just need "refinement", and get all pissy when their first half hearted attempt doesn't land them a job.
I've seen even bitter veterans who swear they will never take another apprentice, completely change their minds when someone walks in with great artwork and a humble attitude.
Buying kits off ebay will only make mediocre work look worse, the machines and inks are junk, and Huck Spaulding's book has as many flaws as it does tips.
Good work will always make money, the only artists who are afraid are the ones who suck.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by bob-omb from IP: 71.254.9.31 on 01/28/06
vermont

first of all, someone abusing you during an apprenticeship is NOT to make you a better artist, its to make sure you appreciate what theyre giving you. theyre giving you the keys to the fucking kingdom, and that doesnt come lightly. THATS why you work for an apprenticeship. down the road, youre taking money out of THEIR mouth, and taking THEIR clientele. do you really think thats going to make them treat you nicely? theyre going to make damn sure that you want this apprenticeship., and if you do, youll work hard and take shit with a smile. i know. i suffered through 2 fucking years of abuse, six months of official state-regulated tattoo apprenticeship, and now im a licensed tattoo artist with one full year under his belt. i love tattooing, and i worked EXTREMELY hard to get where i am. on top of it, my work is much better than i thought it would be after a year. when you work hard at it, it comes easily. but if youre reading out of a book, more specifically the spaulding book, which is SO completely irrelevant to tattooing except as a piece of history, things are going to go extremely slowly. THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A "TATTOO ARTIST" AND A "TATTOOIST." a tattoo artist is willing to work hard for their art, even if it means suffering abuse, because they know that in the end they will be enriched and their work will benefit and they know what it takes to make a career out of it. a tattooist is just someone that wants to scribble shitty pictures on people, and is going to do that with or without a formal apprenticeship, because they dont want to wait. they want the glory RIGHT NOW because they think theyll be some local rock star and life with be nothing but bitches and blowjobs and cash flow, because thats what they show on tv. one word: bullshit. theyre lying to you. do you know how much funding those guys get for those shows? do you know how much merchandise they sell because their pretty faces are on the boob tube? THATS how they keep afloat. go ahead, go to ebay, buy yourself a nice jackhammer machine thats going to dig up peoples arms and scar them. we had a guy here in vermont that sent five people to the hospital IN A ROW because he was tattooing them illegally. they brought his ass up on criminal charges, and i laughed my ass off. things should be like they were in the old days, like in new york. if a tattoo artist heard about some asshole scratching people, he drop by his house, smash his machines, and break his fucking hands with a hammer so hed never tattoo again. good times.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by Mark Alan from IP: 204.211.36.105 on 02/16/06
NC

I agree 100% with apprenticeships. I'm an artist and I have a large amount of tattoos. I've been to all 5 shops in my area and surrounding areas asking with complete respect to the tattoo artist, for an apprenticeship. They all basically said they don't have time for an apprentice. They didn't even take the time to look at my art. How can one that wants to tattoo and goes the old school faithful route of apprenticeship, but can't get an apprenticeship to learn how to tattoo. Should I just give up my dream because I can't find an apprenticeship? I have a family, a full time job, and go to school part time. If I was single I would move to a new location just to able to become an apprentice, unfortunately I can't do that. So since I don't want to be labeled as a scratcher, and I want to become a QUALITY Tattoo Artist, I guess I have to give up my dream because I can't start tattooing the right way due to lack of options and opportunity.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by JOE from IP: 64.12.116.66 on 02/16/06
New Haven CT

Here's the deal. There's a very good chance that the reason that the shops in your area didn't wish to take you on as an apprentice is simply because they don't need the help. Here's usually how it works. a shop needs a new employee, there for they have two choices, 1 hire an established tattooist, or 2 look for a talented person to train to tattoo. If there not looking to train you that probably means there's not enough work to keep you busy, there fore why bring a new artist in.
This is not some plot to keep people from tattooing. The same goes for talking down to people tattooing out of there homes, and learning on there own. Its a bad way to start. Not to mention you simply don't get the experience you need.
IM not suggesting you give up on wanting to learn. But maybe you should try to befriend the individual that your trying to get to train you. This is not like school, you don't just decide to go, and than sign up, and start attending class. A good apprenticeship, should end in a job. If not how good is it going to be.
Just my opinion, good luck...

J.Capobianco


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Posted by gabe from IP: 71.123.89.18 on 02/16/06
Easthampton

Take it out on your art. It sounds like you have a lot on your plate as it is, learning to tattoo is a BIG time commitment. You may have too much going on to handlke it right now anyways. You really need to find the right artist to apprentice you. Would you get tattooed at any of those studios? With persistence you will be able to show tattoo artists your work. You need to be in the right place at the right time, but if your always around and polite then you will get a chance. until then, work real hard at making your portfolio the most amazing you can and get tattooed by the best. When you get the chance to show someone your portfolio when they need some extra help, you'll knock their socks off.


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Posted by KANTIAN from IP: 70.195.119.138 on 02/16/06

I can't believe i read the whole thing either...

1. It took about 4 years to get an apprenticeship from the point i started asking around
2. It lasted 4 1/2 yrs unofficially
3. I did not touch tattoo machines until 2yrs into it

background prior to getting the apprenticeship>
i focused in on becoming a tattoo artist when i was 18. went to 2art schools, worked on my fundamental and technical aspect of drawing, painting, sculpture, and studied superficial and artistic anatomy.

comment>
tattooing is a business. it is regulated. not only you must provide all clients with tattoos with quality which meets his or her standard but also provide curtius service. we all must work w a crew. thus it is easier to hire "a friend" at the shop. however i believe if there is someone who is technically qualified to the job and shows the enthusium, his chances to fill such spot difinitly increases.


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Posted by KANTIAN from IP: 70.195.119.138 on 02/16/06

I can't believe i read the whole thing either...

1. It took about 4 years to get an apprenticeship from the point i started asking around
2. It lasted 4 1/2 yrs unofficially 3yrs officially
3. I did not touch tattoo machines until 2yrs into it

background prior to getting the apprenticeship>
i focused in on becoming a tattoo artist when i was 18. went to 2art schools, worked on my fundamental and technical aspect of drawing, painting, sculpture, and studied superficial and artistic anatomy.

comment>
tattooing is a business. it is regulated. not only you must provide all clients with tattoos with quality which meets his or her standard but also provide courteous service. we all must work w a crew. thus it is easier to hire "a friend" at the shop. however i believe if there is someone who is technically qualified to the job and shows the enthusiasm, his chances to fill such spot will certainly increases. it is true that a shop will not take a person in if there is a over saturation of artists. But that is same w any other job. Even the wal-mart will not hire a person if they are overstaffed. i understand why people wants to tattoo. i personally fell for them. how could i tell you not to start? but like a hair dresser has to go to a beauty school, its about the qualification. i have seen many people who came in to the shop asking for a job. most of them was not sufficiently developed as an artist. also there is no reason for comparing oneself to the "crappy artist". go fined a person who cares. show them that you care. advice will sure to follow. people in the industry will sure to have eyes for it. they can help you to determine that you should go down that path or not (you know, like American idol?)


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Posted by Mark Alan from IP: 204.211.36.105 on 02/16/06
NC

Thanks for the advice. I've been trying to show my face around the shops here for about 2 years, (not annoying them, I drop in about once or twice a month). I'll just have to keep on trying. Thanks everyone for the positive and honest feedback.


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Posted by Mark Alan from IP: 204.211.36.105 on 02/16/06
NC

Thanks for the advice. I've been trying to show my face around the shops here for about 2 years, (not annoying them, I drop in about once or twice a month). I'll just have to keep on trying. Thanks everyone for the positive and honest feedback.


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Posted by crockett from IP: 64.12.116.66 on 02/16/06
ct.

first off thanks mark for not coming on and telling us this is something your gonna do no matter what and then asking our "opinions" basically just trying to gather information on things most people dont understand to begin with. they way you phrased your question and responded shows that you have put some good thought into this and youre mature in handlng the responses put fourth.
you might need to move if this is something you really want to do and believe me making a move shows commitment. i started my apprenticeship in 1989. it was rather old school but it was the time of my life and it felt great to earn the life of a tattoo artist. there were no message boards there werent a ton of shops so getting knowledge was tough. shit getting equipment was tough.well i could go on and on but basically my point is at the time i started my apprenticeship the popularity of tattooing was rising and shops needed help. i lived in ct and there were probably like 8-10 shops thruout the state at the time but i heard of a shop in long island that were looking for apprentices so i went down with a portfolio got hired. fortunately i had been out of highschool for a year working and by reading the one and only magazine out there "tattoo" while i was suppossed to be working and realized an apprenticeship was the only way to go. i had a bunch of money saved and packed up and moved to a place an hour and a half from home where i didnt know many people or much about the area. no regrets like i said it was the time of my life and i respect tattooing so much more being i earned it.
so you might want to try some other shops a little farther out of reach or hit some conventions and talk to artist you whose work you like and who you respect. maybe travel and get tattooed by other artist further away to talk to them. just keep networking dont give up hope and you will succed. remember respect is a 2 way street it needs to be given to be received. over the past few years ive gotten probably 20 people asking for apprenticeships most never come back when asked to bring a portfolio. i dont think i remember any of them getting tattooed in our shop so theres no bond between artist/client. the best was one thursday morning of course after miami ink i got a call asking if we were looking for help so i figured cool maybe another person to help clean and maintain the shop so i said well what would you want to do? well i was wondering if you guys needed an apprentice.. lol.. sure i dont know you from adam but come hang with the daily crew.
as far as equipment and all that jazz dont even start talking about it till you get an apprenticeship. you getting in the door is your first step. then making sure you fit in and are cut out to be a tattooer is the next step its not all its cracked up to be. long hours most free time spent drawing or lucking up art then cleaning the shop equipment and most importantly learning how to deal with and handle the general public! most artist dont want people that have tried to learn tattooing on theyre own as they have many bad habits that just cant seem to be broken or they allready know more then the profesional does. ive been heavily involved with tattooing for 15 years and almost on a daily basis i learn something that makes me realize i still need to put in a lot of hard work and stay humble. wow ive never written this much on this forum in my life! its late im tired and i could go on and on so ill cut it short ,yeah here. any quuestions or if you ever want suggestions on anything you can mail me at jcrockett70@gmail.com...if i dont respond just hit the board up again i check it out quite regulary...


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Posted by gabe from IP: 71.123.89.18 on 02/17/06
Easthampton

Hey Jay, nice post! When are we gonna update your website man??? :-)


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Posted by Mark Alan from IP: 204.211.36.62 on 02/17/06
NC

Crockett,

Thank you so much for that in depth and very informative post. After reading all the advice I thought a lot about how I can better myself as an artist. My real life art could always use some more practice. I've decided to better my art before I go back out with a portfolio. I've also been designing tattoo's for my friends (just drawing them out), and I just ordered some Spirit Masters thermal paper. I thought of a way to possibly become friends with some of the tattoo artists in my area, tell me what you think. I draw and stencil the tattoo's for my friends and then make sure ALL of my friends go to the same tattoo artist. I'll go with them everytime they go to get a new tattoo. Here is the way I might be able to get in the door...I go with my friends to the same tattoo artist and bring the stencil already done. That saves the tattoo artist time and his clientel (m/s) will increase because of me. Along with that, they will also see my artwork because they will be tattooing it. Well...what does everyone think??? I thought it was a good idea, but I might be wrong...just a shot in the dark, maybe it will work.


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Posted by crockett from IP: 152.163.101.5 on 02/17/06
ct.

hey gabe,
i know i need to get the wife to load some pics for me. i was hoping to have some free time in the winter but im staying booked 2-3 weeks in advance. no complaints as far as lack of work. i just need to step it up and not be a slacker . i definately will get something going before our 1 year anniversary i promise!!
mark my advice to you is to slow down a bit. use your enthusiasm in creating art right now. good idea about the drawing and going to the same artist everytime a friend gets inked. i wouldnt do the whole stencil thing. it might turn the artist off for a few reasons.
1) when someone brings me art i usually need to redraw the design so it will work as a tattoo. when you give the artist the line work if it needs to be redrawn see what the artist does to it and how it is altered to work as a tattoo. this will help you in learning to draw art that can be tattooed.
2) make sure your friends understand that the art might need to be altered to work as a tattoo. sometimes we get customers that have a drawing that wont work on skin. it looks great on paper but will turn to a blob in the skin. usually i explain to the person the reasons why it wont look good as a tattoo and tell them what needs to be done in order to make the design work and we go from there. here comes the tough part sometimes we get "an art director". for some reason they want the design exactly as it is and no matter what they are being told they wont let the artist change the design at all. well if its not going to look good as a tattoo im not going to do it then. this rarely happens and most of the time i try to met people halfway.
3) last the stencil part. if someone brought me in a premade stencil i might think they are playing art director. also if the art has to be redrawn your stencil was useless. it would probably be a red flag and get someone thinking well what else does this guy have at his house or maybe he has some sort of hidden agenda.
youll need to form a bond with the arist(s) youre frequenting. this should occur somewhat naturally. the working hard part comes after you get an apprenticeship. hope my opinions help.


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Posted by taz from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 02/18/06
midwest

Or...you could visit the shops bearing small gifts such as food ,drinks some porn mags maybe,,,,in other words....SUCK UP!
Awwwwww come on I'm just joshin ya Mark....Crocketts advise ,as usual, is on the money...get aquainted with artists you respect and while ya don't need to kiss anyones stinky pinky let it be known that you respect them and are always anxious to see the next piece they are doing.Tattoo artists ,like everyone else appreciate being appreciated.Don't do the stencil thing...as the man said it could offend...a good quality sketch of what your friend wants should'nt offend at all...if an artist is so insecure that seeing the art of another that he/she takes offense then that should tell ya that you ain't gonna learn anything from them anyway except maybe hoe not to act! Good luck and never let anyone crap on your dreams!...Taz


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Posted by taz from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 02/18/06
midwest

HOW NOT HOE.....Way to much coffee!


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Posted by Krystof from IP: 71.192.231.137 on 02/18/06
Off the Map, Easthampton MA

haha, Freudian Slip Taz? It is late on a Friday after all, j/k


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Posted by Mark Alan from IP: 69.174.233.127 on 02/18/06
NC

Man, this forum rocks!!!! I never thought that it might offend to bring a pre-made stencil. Great advice, I'll just keep working on my art for right now and whenever my friends go to get inked I will just watch and absorb everything the tattoo artist does. Great advice guys, although the bringing drinks and porn might be a good way to get in the door, ha ha...nice!!!! As everyone can see, if I'm going to tattoo, I'm going to do it the right "Old School" way. It will take time, but I have the patience and the drive. So, I will just focus on my art and sketch out as many tattoo designs I can. Maybe one day I will be at the right place at the right time and will achieve my goal. Big thanks to everyone that has passed on great advice and taking the time to respond to me. Maybe one day (a long time from now) I might be listed under the artist list on this website.


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Posted by Taz from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 02/18/06
midwest

Damn! Ya caught me Krystof! Hey Mark...Sounds as is you are one of the few that actually listen...aif ai can help in any way just e-mail me dude!!! Taz


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Posted by taz from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 02/18/06
midwest

Damn I gotta get off this keyboard! ITS GETTIN ALL BLURRY AND SHIT aaarrrggghhhhhhh!!!!! t


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Posted by Doddsy from IP: 142.110.227.163 on 02/21/06
Calgary Alberta Canada

Ok so basically the jist of this is:

1. Don't buy any equipment or do any practicing , it only causes bad habits.
2. You have to do an aprenticeship
3. Go to shops with your art work and ask around
4. there is no point in reading books or doing online courses in preperation.

Is there anything else I should know> What kind of art work should I take with me? Will drawing classes improve my chances? How much should I be willing to Pay for an apprenticeship? If I go to a shop and they tel me I am not cut out for this should I just take their advice or do I keep looking?Does anyone know of any places in either Calgary Alberta Canada or Regina Saskatchewan Canada that might be willing to look at my portfolio. If I was to post some work would someone be willing to evaluate it? If I am not cut out for this highly competitive and important art I would like to know before I waste anyone's precious time


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Posted by taz from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 02/21/06
midwest

Post some of your work and give us a look see! But ONLY if you are prepared for honest opinions!


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Posted by Mike from IP: 64.33.204.90 on 02/21/06
Rice Lake, WI

I have been reading the posts listed and as I stated a few days ago (maybe a week), I did find an apprenticeship about an hour away from me.

A little about how I approached the artist...
1.) I called and asked if they are looking for an apprenticeship (they said they were looking for just 1)
2.) I went down with portfolio in hand, and some work I had done on myself
3.) Let four of the artists (big shop) look and my work and got their opinions which was very positive
4.) They said they would accept me as an apprentice

Now the fine print...The length of the apprenticeship is ONE YEAR and the cost....$2500. It was explained to me that the first two months is hell, clean, draw, clean, draw, learn about machines, breakdown, fixing, colors, mixing colors, etc. etc. etc...ohhh and clean some more. Then the fun begins, and the real artistry begins. I was told that I will be taught EVERYTHING from the basics, to running a business, to talking with clients, to dealing with TKO's, skin types, areas, and the list goes on.

A word about the costs I am willing to pay. I attended two years of college for computers and have an associates degree and have 10K...yes $10,000 in school loans I am repaying...so did I get a job in the field I went to college for....NO!!! I tryed for over two years to find work and ended up with nothing more than debt!!. So, why pay for an apprenticeship...well you do the math...

Last word about being treated like shit during an apprenticeship. I made it clear to the artist before I agreed to choose him (after all I am paying him for his knowledge-and he is one outstanding artist, saw his portfolio) that if it was ok, I would pay for the first two months of training in advance that way if we don't "click" there is no harm, no foul, and I am not out $2500! I also explained that I am here to learn the art, not play games, or put up with the BS seen on tv. He agreed so I will start next week. Feel free to make comments on this post as I am sure it may hit a nerve with someone...as I said I have been reading the posts for awhile.

I started by buying a kit and found very quickly that all the books and dvds you buy don't do justice to the hands on training you can get from a talented artist!!! $2500 is a small price to pay for a guaranteed (99.5%) career which you can have fun doing, and meet new and interesting people on a daily basis. I you are good that money will come back to you in less than a month!!! Damn good investment if you ask me....maybe I can pay off my worthless college loans!!!

Mike


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Posted by taz from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 02/21/06
midwest

Good for you Mike!!! A word on apprenticeships...I see no need to treat apprentices like they are the scum of the earth. Any one I take into my shops be it a great experienced artist or a lowly apprentice...all are treated with respect and dignity...and everyone catches shit sometimes ...we are a family here and have all the drama a real family has...disagreements ,personality conflicts,and full blown fights but when the neon clicks to open WE UNIFY!!!!.Any mentor who treats the people he/she is teaching like shit must be compensating for something lacking in their own life.It is simply not necessary....sure the "FNG" (fuckin new guy) catches a little shit but only in a friendly funny way.
I wish you the best of luck Mike ..If I can be of any help just e-mail me.....Taz


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Posted by Mark Alan from IP: 204.211.36.91 on 03/03/06
NC

Hey guys, I just thought about a good scenario for all the scratchers on this forum. I work in IT as a network administrator, and I think this scenario will make people see what the profressional tattoo artists are trying to explain to everyone with taking on an apprenticeship. If I did not go to school and did not complete a year and a half internship there is no way I could not have found employment in IT. Just like someone trying to read and and study/watch dvd's on tattooing and thinking they could go out and tattoo without any professional guidance. If I were to buy a few switches, routers, and servers and try to setup a network, the network might work for a little while, but without the training and education that network would sooner or later fail/crash because there is so much more to setting up a network than just knowing what physical device connects to another physical device, and the basic configurations. There are factors like understanding VLANS and how to configure/understand how TCP/IP and binary IP addresses and their octets relate. This is just one example of thousands that I'm still learning today (I've been in the field for 5 years, which is not long at all). So remember Tattooing has a lot of hidden factors that you must understand in order to become a quality tattoo professional. The only way to really and truly understand this is to have an apprenticeship(internship) under a professional that knows how to overcome and fix the hidden issues that we (people wanting a career in tatooing) don't know anything about. Hope this helps.

Thanks Mark Alan


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Posted by Mark Alan from IP: 204.211.36.91 on 03/03/06
NC

Another aspect on appreniceships. I myself and I've read others on this forum saying they can't get an apprenticeship. I starting thinking outside the box. Lets say you stopped by the University of North Carolina at Charlotte (and you are not a student there) and say I need an internship in the area of engineering. The first question they are going to ask you...Are you a student here? Well no you are not....bye, bye. So realted to an apprenticeship, you need to go to a studio and become a client and get tattoos. Give the studio and your tattoo artist your time and of course cash for them giving you tattoos. Within time, just like a student at a university, you will recieve your apprenticeship/internship.


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Posted by not@me.com from IP: 69.174.233.127 on 03/04/06

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Posted by dickdagger from IP: 152.163.101.5 on 03/18/06
New York

whats the mumbo jumbo


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Posted by j boy from IP: 67.100.39.204 on 05/30/07
florida

get them all that way you have what the people need it will pay off most tattoo place stared off lil but you wont to do it biger than every tattoo place real talk and all of it will pay off you will have money
look me up on myspace at/ jeromeat@mail.com get at me


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Posted by scottie spaz from IP: 75.173.32.221 on 12/17/08
albuquerque nm

Hey I am a 17 year old with alot of interest in the art. I have already tattooed myself and did a fairly decent job(safety pin). since i am still in school and working a job i have no time to look for a apprenticeship. however i see this as a decent time to start getting a portfolio together any tips for having a decent one. this is a link to my myspace page and some of the tattoos i have designed. let me know what you hink and what i need to improve on.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=152603307&albumId=2889094


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Posted by scottie spaz from IP: 75.173.32.221 on 12/17/08
albuquerque nm

Hey I am a 17 year old with alot of interest in the art. I have already tattooed myself and did a fairly decent job(safety pin). since i am still in school and working a job i have no time to look for a apprenticeship. however i see this as a decent time to start getting a portfolio together any tips for having a decent one. this is a link to my myspace page and some of the tattoos i have designed. let me know what you hink and what i need to improve on.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=152603307&albumId=2889094


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Posted by stuck up asshole from IP: 67.100.45.184 on 02/26/09

why is every tattoo artist on here from the us the biggest fucking prickasshole ever? jesus christ, get the fuck over yourself


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Posted by fliptat from IP: 68.193.82.204 on 02/27/09
ny

Listen, you could ponder on what Tattoo equipment you need all day and week, get that out of your mind and seek an Apprenticeship, even if you have to pay, you will not have any credibilility if someone ask you about your Background and you tell them , you tattooed in your basement, its not legal and doesnt sound right, In any Skilled Profesion you need to approach it the Professional way, no ifs or buts, thats the way it goes, keep Tattoing Legal and Professional, cause Gods knows theres alot of Shitty Ink out there.


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Posted by The Nightmare Man from IP: 71.255.190.200 on 04/18/10
Maryland

Hey I have been tattooing for 18 years, and professionaly for about 6 years now. I started with a jail house gun made from a toothbrush in school. I then bought a beginners kit and started from there with a real machine. I got pretty good, bought all the equipment (Autoclave and Ultrasonic is a 100% must have). And now I do realy good work and have a pretty profitable business. Like some of you I went to tattoo shops and asked them and got turned away. The tattoo industry is not a get-rich-quick plan, it is a very hard trade that takes alot of knowledge and skill, as a business person, an artist, and having your equipment as sterile as a surgeons equipment doing open heart surgery. So take the time to realy learn the trade before trying to dive right into it.


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Posted by Dora from IP: 86.46.103.147 on 08/06/10

Gabe (or whatever you name is, can't remember) you're an idiot by thinking that you're answering the question asked. No one asked how to get an apprenticeship or how to learn to tattoo online. The question asked is "What equipement do I really need to start tattooing?" so shut up until you learn how to read.

Get few Tattooing magazines, in most of them they have a shop section and starter tattooing kits with everything you need to start practicing. Obviously, over time you will need to get better equipement and higher quality inks and stuff but that will come in time, first just get used to the feel of the machine and the general work you need to put into the tattoos. You, more than likely, will get fake skin with the kit, but you could perhaps arrange with your local butcher to get pig skin (as it's as close to human skin as you'll get). It may be a bit messy but it'll be worth it.
When you think you've got it sorted, go look into tattoo shops then and they'll get you to practice some more :P.

Hope this helps


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Posted by dmanola from IP: 192.251.125.85 on 12/12/10
baton rouge,La

first of all apprenticeships is crap u work for nothing being someones cleaning boy the best way is read,watch and practice on pig skin then yourself do u think older tattoo artist apprenticed hell no they learned from trail and error


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Posted by MJJesus from IP: 213.123.249.119 on 04/12/11
London

Hey I have been tattooing for 6 years now. I didn't do an apprenticeship I bought a cheap kit and practised for 6 months to a year on fake skin, myself and brave mates. I now have 7 shops 2 in UK, 1 in Hong Kong, 1 in New Zealand, 1 in Australia, 1 in Germany and 1 in Las Vegas US and am setting my 8th up in LA. All this in the space of 6 years and no apprenticeship.


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Posted by yep from IP: 75.191.165.110 on 04/15/11
sanford,nc,usa

First off, if you dont know what equipment you need then you shouldnt be tattooing. I dont know how to fly so I'm not on here asking where to buy a airplane.This is the problem with the industry now. There to much free info and to many half assed so-called tattoo artist that are willing to give up all their info,which most of the time is wrong and the equipment they suggest is shit.
Most reputable shops dont take in apprentice because they feel that their craft is worth more than what you might have to offer. They ,more than likely, dont know you or what your about,wether you fit in to their groove ,or gel with the shop. most artist that went through the long hours of drawing ,learning machines,equipment,making pigment ,and needles, are jus not gonna let you in jus because you feel like you got it. good artist have sacraficed for their trade and to them its a very close,personal skill that they worked hard to learn.
They respect their craft and guard it close.Try getting tattooed by a person you feel could be a good friend after awhile. Make an effort to watch while being tattooed. Talk with the artist about their craft and show them you have a true interest in the craft and form of it. then if they feel you have what it takes you'll get the offer. Most of us can tell when someone is genuine about the art and not jus a "hey i can make money and be jus like the tv stars". Just remeber if your serious about this craft then it will show and you'll get the chance one day,but if your like 80% of the people who try to do this hopefully you'll never get past ordering crap equipment and tattooing outta your kitchen.
It take sincere ,honest,dedication and hard work. you have to earn it. No one reputable in this business is gonna give you shit that they have earned.


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Posted by yep from IP: 75.191.165.110 on 04/15/11
sanford,nc,usa

First off, if you dont know what equipment you need then you shouldnt be tattooing. I dont know how to fly so I'm not on here asking where to buy a airplane.This is the problem with the industry now. There to much free info and to many half assed so-called tattoo artist that are willing to give up all their info,which most of the time is wrong and the equipment they suggest is shit.
Most reputable shops dont take in apprentice because they feel that their craft is worth more than what you might have to offer. They ,more than likely, dont know you or what your about,wether you fit in to their groove ,or gel with the shop. most artist that went through the long hours of drawing ,learning machines,equipment,making pigment ,and needles, are jus not gonna let you in jus because you feel like you got it. good artist have sacraficed for their trade and to them its a very close,personal skill that they worked hard to learn.
They respect their craft and guard it close.Try getting tattooed by a person you feel could be a good friend after awhile. Make an effort to watch while being tattooed. Talk with the artist about their craft and show them you have a true interest in the craft and form of it. then if they feel you have what it takes you'll get the offer. Most of us can tell when someone is genuine about the art and not jus a "hey i can make money and be jus like the tv stars". Just remeber if your serious about this craft then it will show and you'll get the chance one day,but if your like 80% of the people who try to do this hopefully you'll never get past ordering crap equipment and tattooing outta your kitchen.
It take sincere ,honest,dedication and hard work. you have to earn it. No one reputable in this business is gonna give you shit that they have earned.


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by gotti from IP: 76.119.69.72 on 04/18/11
ny

hey fuck these ass holes who dont like helping people .look man try papillons tattoo supply they are really good .let me tell you something ive tattooed everywhere ive won a couple of best tattoo in festivals and hanged with top tattoo artist and i never got to aprentice with any one alot of artist just wont do it unless theres a lot of money or something .thank god practice makes perfect and dam it ive covered up tats done from a lot of local shops that are supposed to be pros .so keep practicing my friend .


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by gotti from IP: 76.119.69.72 on 04/18/11
ny

hey fuck these ass holes who dont like helping people .look man try papillons tattoo supply they are really good .let me tell you something ive tattooed everywhere ive won a couple of best tattoo in festivals and hanged with top tattoo artist and i never got to aprentice with any one alot of artist just wont do it unless theres a lot of money or something .thank god practice makes perfect and dam it ive covered up tats done from a lot of local shops that are supposed to be pros .so keep practicing my friend .


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by gotti from IP: 76.119.69.72 on 04/18/11
ny

hey fuck these ass holes who dont like helping people .look man try papillons tattoo supply they are really good .let me tell you something ive tattooed everywhere ive won a couple of best tattoo in festivals and hanged with top tattoo artist and i never got to aprentice with any one alot of artist just wont do it unless theres a lot of money or something .thank god practice makes perfect and dam it ive covered up tats done from a lot of local shops that are supposed to be pros .so keep practicing my friend .


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RE:What equipment do I really need to start tattooing?

Posted by Penguin from IP: 66.168.13.34 on 10/03/11
Wisconsin

I just want to point out that people are going to do what they want to do. Just like health class in school. They could sit and preach about how bad sex is from sun up to sun down but at the end of the day teenagers are still going to be sexually active no matter how much you tell them not to be. It's the same concept here. You guys are sitting here trying to preach against just going ahead and doing it yourself, and instead finding an apprenticeship. Granted, yes, that would be a better idea, but not everyone is going to listen. Going back to my health class reference, they have begun preparing them for the experience. Teaching them, allowing them to be prepared by handing out condoms. People are going to do what they want to do no matter how much you preach it's bad. So just let the few who wanna give them a fucking condom give them it so they can have at least a bit of preparation..


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