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Hildbrandt

Posted by newspectrum from IP: 63.86.143.136 on 01/03/08
illinois

Ok- someone mentioned this in another thread, nobody answered and it eventually it got lost in some bickering- so Im asking again-
Does anyone know ANYTHING about a company called Hildbrandt or thier products?
This site is the "sole distributor"-
www.tattoomachineequipment.com
any pros care to poke some holes in thier story?



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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by hedwas from IP: 195.0.153.10 on 01/03/08

Yeah i just bought a hildbrandt machine on ebay just for fun to see how those cheap ebay machines are...... and the conclution is THEY SUCK and youre a dumbass if you are concidering to tattoo anyone witrh those shitty machines


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by hedwas from IP: 195.0.153.10 on 01/03/08

BTW they are identical and the same as almost all cheap machine on ebay hildbrandt just promotes them to be different and better but they are exactly the same machines made in china generic junk


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by JS from IP: 209.139.211.217 on 01/03/08
emerald city

I'll have to have to disagree on this one, I had one of those generic machines from ebay that cost me something like 20 bucks to practice on melons and i'll agree that they suck even for inking melons. My bro that has been doing work for years just gave me the hildbrandt he was using as a liner and this thing is miles better than the one i was using. My bro has done some real work with this hildbrandt and I've seen him work on some of them kuz I'm learning from him and all his work turned out great.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by Marymary from IP: 189.32.37.84 on 01/22/08

I am interest in buy Hildbrandt machine as well. I have hear some good thing from tattoo artist friend here about hildbrandt machine and they are good price for me. Also good for me is they ship to brazil becuse many US and Canada tattoo machine maker not ship to brazil. What I not understand is your saying:
"i just bought a hildbrandt machine on ebay just for fun to see how those cheap ebay machines are...... and the conclution is THEY SUCK and youre a dumbass if you are concidering to tattoo anyone witrh those shitty machines"
Why anyone chose to buy a machine just to see if they bad? Is it not waste money? I wuld like to know why you say they are bad because I want to make sure I buy is good.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by hedwas from IP: 195.0.153.10 on 01/22/08

The reason that i bought it was that i wanted to compare it to my other machines. I had never testet out a cheap machine like that before and was curious how the cheaper models run compared to my everyday machines. The cost of this machine is so low that i can afford to buy it just for fun..

The reasons that hildbrandt machines really suck is that they have a steel frame of bad quality, steeel is not prefered anyway for a frame, the geometry of the frame is wrong to.

The coils are made of wery thin copper wire on a small steel core this results in a wery weak coil that needs alot of voltage to run and because of the bad quality they will burn up .

The contact screw is of steel this will destroy your springs after a little while and since all parts on the machine including the frame has a bad geometry you will not find spare parts to fit.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by tylermarine from IP: 71.249.162.106 on 01/23/08
USA

I have a hildbrandt and I'm pretty sure we are either talking about a different tattoo machine manufacturer or they made some serious changes to their machines. My hildbrandt frame is made of iron. It says on their website the frame is made of iron. It is obvious that it is iron because there is no yoke to suggest it to be anything else and if it was steel it would become magnetized while running and wouldn't run as long as I've run it. Also, the coils on my machine are made of iron as well. I haven't taken apart the coils to see exactly how thick the copper wire is as I didn't want to rip apart the nice coil covers. I haven't had to run it on a high voltage setting though, pretty standard fare actually depending on the work I'm doing. I'm not sure about the contact screw because I changed it to a brass one. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is the best machine out there, I only have it because my gear got jacked and I can't afford a better machine just yet. I'd sell my soul to get back my sharpz but that ran me past 300 for it, for the 50 bucks I paid for this hildbrandt, I'd say I got one helluva deal.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by alexpereira56@gmail.com from IP: 71.224.243.207 on 01/23/08
PA

they have a bunch of machine styles including cheap bent steel frames... i have an iron bulldog style from there that tuned and frequently use for B&G shading and it runs fine to me... eventually i will tear it down to the frame and use all my own parts on it but until i have the time it works fine for me.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by hedwas from IP: 195.0.153.10 on 01/30/08

The one i have tested is called 44 magnum and its a bent steel frame.....useless machine


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by gregory from IP: 12.202.20.205 on 02/08/08

I thought I'd just add my 2 cents here. I don't have a hildbrandt but two buddies that I work with use them. they ain't the best gun out there but they do their job fine.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by gregory from IP: 12.202.20.205 on 02/08/08

just a FYI hedwas, my buddy has the 44 magnum too and the frame is made of iron, not steel. if you have a problem with the gun you can send it in for warranty. my buddy ended up stripping one of the screws, it was pretty obvious that it was his own fault but the hildbrandt guys replaced the whole gun no questions asked.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by alexpereira56@gmail.com from IP: 71.224.243.207 on 02/10/08
PA

If you know what the hell you're doing then you can pretty much run any machine after you, yourself tune it for your style and needs. My "shitty lil hildebrandt" pulled consecutive all day shifts without skipping a beat, everything from color to black and gray it was able to blast out with great results. (mind you my other machine i normally use is being used by a collegue)

the only problem i have with em is that they're metric based, the screws are kind of cheap, the springs will probably need to be replaced in a few weeks, and the worst part is the contact screw wears away too fast so it requires re-adjustment too often.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by ecvSoldier from IP: 24.2.63.179 on 02/26/08
Sacramento, CA USA

I'm going to precede this by stating I USED 2 New Gens, a dial and a brass from international. The New Gens were great u could literally adjust them for any hand and size. I thought they were great, especially for the price (my New Gens were less than $200) ea. I didnt have a problem paying it, they were and are great machines.

However, 2 weeks ago I got 2 Hildbrandt machines. I've got the .223 set up as a shader and the .38 as my liner. I just had to set my depths and w/i 5 min. they both were purring just right. Needle throw was good, so was speed, right out of the box. I'm the type of guy that doesn't want BS...and this machine can offer shop owners to purchase new machines for their artist's, especially with the price. I think the owners would get a handshake and the artist is getting great machine.

~H


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by alexpereira56@gmail.com from IP: 71.224.243.207 on 02/27/08
PA

This is the kind of work i've been slamming out with my Hildebrandt... sorry for the glare


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by gavinyes@163.com from IP: 70.68.99.220 on 03/20/08

I know what HILDBRANDT is on Ebay. it's made in China.I know that very well. you can symbol any words on the machine whatever HILDBRANDT or AAABBB if you ask to the manufactory. Does anyone want it? I can offer 10$ each, minimum for 100 and plus the shipping from China. and just tell me what kind of words you want symbol on the machine.I promise it's absolutely the same as the HILDBRANDT one. want the warranty certificate ? sure, no problem. that's just a paper....
if somebody interesting , contact me at gavinyes@163.com


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by josemorin73@yahoo.com from IP: 68.206.68.165 on 05/07/08

I was thinking of buying a hildbrandt from ebay my whole purpose is to tattoo pets for I.D. purposes the desciption says that even vets and breeders use them.Does anyone know if these little units are actually safe on pets? I have contacted the Hildbrandt co. all they basically told me was what I had already read on ebay's description.
I know there are tattoo equipment out there especially for pets,but is there really a difference?Besides the Hildbrandt seems nice and economical.i know you guys tattoo people but I figured if the co. don't know maybe the experienced tattooer might know if these units are good for once in while use and only to tattoo numbers.thanks for any info.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by subseajimmy from IP: 201.74.156.170 on 11/30/08
Brasil

To reply to "hedwas" or whatever his name was, it doesnt really matter, why any one would waste money buying a machine to see if it was the same as a generic machine offered on ebay shows that edwas has no respect for money, his parents or sugar daddy has spoilt him for too long, wake up son show some respect, maybe all cant afford the lifestyle that your are accustomed to.

Tha machines are great and well worth the payment asked, as far as "they Suck" it must be you that sucks as all m y tattooist use them and have actually won trophies with them. Bad workmen always blame their tools and by all accounts you really do suck!!!!

So you should really have a good look in the mirror, stop acting like a brat and waste some more of Daddies money on some old lady to teach you some manners.

Hildbrandt are honest people with honest machines.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by noz from IP: 142.162.162.207 on 12/05/08

hildbrandt is crap. the only thing worse than a hildbrandt machine, is a hildbrandt power supply. these machines ARE chinese, and they are no better than all the generic junk on ebay. anyone who tells you any different knows nothing about tattoo equipment, and is talking purely out their asshole. there equipment is sold under a variety of names. same junk. don't listen to the moronic scratchers in this thread who sing the praises of absolute shit.

this is why pros hate scratchers, because they are so fucking gullible and arrogant. again, only a true idiot would even suggest that these chinese knock offs are anything more than bottom of the barrel manure.

is this in any way unclear?


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by Inksane Gina from IP: 66.159.182.39 on 12/06/08
CT

Tattooists spend so much money on their machine collections looking for the perfect one. I say, skip the junk and move right up to the good stuff.

Many people argue that it is the tattoo artist and not the tool. And while I agree to a point, if you start out with good machines you won't have to fuss with it as much and if the tattoo is fucked up, it's most likely because of YOU, not your machine.

I think that a good machine and at least the basic troubleshooting knowledge is better than a crap machine that won't stay adjusted, spits, sputters, etc...


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by fryanryansd666 from IP: 71.136.64.129 on 12/10/08
San Diego, CA

i got 12 dollar machine from cam look like hilbrandt but shittyer used parts for other build projects........anyways i could tattoo perfect with a ten penny nail if i wanted if you suck you suck so stop acting like you r a real tattooer and go back to makeing web pages or what ever you did before u thought you were a tattooer.oh its not called a gun dumb ass trailer trash


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by daniel.m.boone@spiritaero.com from IP: 68.102.148.217 on 02/02/09

dude...hildbrandt machines are pretty good. They last for a long time. They run smooth. You can get them brand new on ebay for $229 for the same kit you find on the website for $289. Its a good kit though. I have it and I like it more than most of the other apprentice kits I've checked out. Not bad. Easy to tune. Lightweight and its comfortable in your hand. Its not like some of the other kits that make your wrist feel like its going to rattle apart and explode after a few hours. get it. its awesome


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by Don'tiel.m.boone@spiritaero.com from IP: 68.102.148.217 on 02/02/09

Oh, by the way, the guns are pretty decent. The power source isn't bad either. The only real problem is that the springs will probably need replaced. But hey...a spring? Oh, they are an iron frame. Power surges? Not yet. The wire is thin, but I can't really say that its a big deal. Thicker wire does not really make a difference. If you can't give a great tattoo with these guns, then you have no business giving tattoos. Everyone is biased. I have my favorites too. But yes, if you have the natural talent, you can give some beautiful tats with the crappiest chinese made guns. The ones on ebay are legit. They say Hildbrandt on the ad. You can check it out. There are no crappy replicas that you have to worry about. Look for what's included in the packaging. But I think you will be pleasantly surprised. The kits from Superior are available too and they work pretty well also. You also get more stuff. I don't care for the power supplies though...


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by noz from IP: 142.162.170.164 on 02/02/09

the question has been answered numerous times. hildbrandt tattoo equipment is garbage without exception. i fail to see the controversy.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by noz2 from IP: 122.2.28.254 on 02/17/09

what machine are you selling noz? cut the crap man.. it ain't all negative feedback that you were able to see here.. you might as well try to post your website of your finished tattoo works just for us to simply enjoy the magnificence of it and decide if you are one hell of a tat artist, also indicate the particular machine that you are using for us to compare..


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by noz from IP: 142.162.169.194 on 02/18/09

i like fk irons, but they have gotten over priced, so i'm going back to pulse.





hildbrandt equipment is garbage. all your tears will never change the facts.

as for my portfolio, you've seen it.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by crazyjoe86 from IP: 70.129.185.160 on 02/19/09
Missouri

I guess if you don't know...you'll never know


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by Yagi from IP: 70.228.83.40 on 09/14/09
akron, Ohio USA

I found my Hildbrant kit to be far better than most I have seen from China. The only issue was with the machines. I have purchased both fine machines and pure junk from China at a very low price. The Hildbrant machine was OK, but no better than the better quality China models. Cost wise, it is about the same. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Hildbrant machine, but don't knock China machines, if you look hard, there are some top shelf ones at an excellent price.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by noz from IP: 142.162.173.210 on 09/14/09

i repeat,

Posted by noz from IP: 142.162.162.207 on 12/05/08

hildbrandt is crap. the only thing worse than a hildbrandt machine, is a hildbrandt power supply. these machines ARE chinese, and they are no better than all the generic junk on ebay. anyone who tells you any different knows nothing about tattoo equipment, and is talking purely out their asshole. their equipment is sold under a variety of names. same junk. don't listen to the moronic scratchers in this thread who sing the praises of absolute shit.

this is why pros hate scratchers, because they are so fucking gullible and arrogant. again, only a true idiot would even suggest that these chinese knock offs are anything more than bottom of the barrel manure.

this thread is full of fucking idiots.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by tig from IP: 195.93.21.1 on 12/05/09

oh how i wish people would check and think and look before they make rash dumb stupid statments, THESE MACHINES ARE NOT CHINESE !!! god how thick, Take the name and look up its history !! i agree there not a carlton machine or a spitz but what you get from this GERMAN originally made machine is a good all round cheap machine that will work well for any apprentice, before you let him loose with a credit card, if your stupid enough and not knowledgeable enough to know the difference between a chinese knock off and the real macoy then you will still think you look great in a £10.00 versace suit and my last comment do you know any reputable well known top class tattoo supply company of machines thats sells it on EBAY !!!


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by saltonslug420 from IP: 66.110.238.246 on 04/15/10
Randleman, nc,us

,well im going to get one of these guns...i think that if you are a real artest than you can work with anygun, as long as its not falling apart. i've worked with many guns and this hildbrandt looks like it will do the job. so i mean like i said if you have the talent you can most likley make due with what you have. tattoo is a art that has been used forever. in some places they dont even use tattoo guns to make a tattoo. so for the money i think its a good deal.


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Posted by .vk*bo$s. from IP: 24.235.44.182 on 04/30/10
canada

i just bought a hildbrandt machine, havent recieved the shipment yet but we will see if it is what its cracked up to be


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by Turtle from IP: 97.78.146.219 on 04/30/10
Venice, FL

You get what you pay for.. bet on that...


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by dontbuyhildebrandt from IP: 24.17.188.31 on 07/13/10
LA

I bought this starter kit was terrible disappointed -I read the reviews from NOS and others and totally ignored them ! I was wrong. He was the most dead end with the problems these machines have -everything he said that was wrong with them was! As well as the power supply being total crap for the machine...the machines coils need to much voltage for the power supply you get and you end up having to replace the power supply for a higher model. The foot pedal is chinese junk that misfired within a week and a few tattoos.The gun has terrible problems and the reviews listing their problems is 100% correct . I am writing this HOPING to stop someone from going thru what I have been thru in basically wasting time-getting frustrated and being told the machine was junk! Spend your money -the adage you get what you pay for us so true.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by dontbuyhildebrandt from IP: 24.17.188.31 on 07/13/10
LA

I bought this starter kit was terrible disappointed -I read the reviews from NOS and others and totally ignored them ! I was wrong. He was the most dead end with the problems these machines have -everything he said that was wrong with them was! As well as the power supply being total crap for the machine...the machines coils need to much voltage for the power supply you get and you end up having to replace the power supply for a higher model. The foot pedal is chinese junk that misfired within a week and a few tattoos.The gun has terrible problems and the reviews listing their problems is 100% correct . I am writing this HOPING to stop someone from going thru what I have been thru in basically wasting time-getting frustrated and being told the machine was junk! Spend your money -the adage you get what you pay for us so true.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by JC from IP: 209.139.211.217 on 07/30/10

dude they got tons of professional artists that used their tattoo machines to do great work. Just look at the hildbrandt artists section: http://www.tattoomachineequipment.com/Hildbrandt%20Artists%20Section.htm Most those guys are pros from real shops. Thats proof their machines work fine, everything else on here is just words from scratchers blaming their tools.


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Posted by B California from IP: 67.142.162.25 on 07/30/10
Cali

This thread caught my eye, because the guy i apprenticed for gave me a few of these machines. (He told me had never heard of the company, but he didn't have a lot of money to spend) Point blank, These machines ARE SHIT! There cheaply made, and I would suggest not tattooing ANYONE WITH THESE! Granted, I have been using the power supply for over 2 years, but NOT THE MACHINES! And after reading this thread I have noticed, the people who appreciate these shitty pieces call them guns. And the company names their machines after guns. Come on now! I don't tattoo as a job anymore, its more of a hobby now, But its the way I live my life.

P.S. A lot of people tend to scar with these machines. I scared myself once, and it was a lesson learned. For future buyers, don't buy this equipment!


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by JC from IP: 209.139.211.217 on 07/30/10

All the tattoos done by pros on their website using hildbrandt machines don't look scarred to me. Maybe you should blame yourself and not your machine for scarring you.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by ang_gino@hotmail.com from IP: 142.163.246.202 on 01/31/11

I've recently bought a tattoo gun, that was fine, but when I ordered the ink, I asked for 3 boxes, one of the boxes wasn't full. It was supposed to have 30 inks, and only had12. Not impressed at all. I e-mailed them, and haven't heard from them yet.


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Posted by ang_gino@hotmail.com from IP: 142.163.246.202 on 01/31/11

I've recently bought a tattoo gun, that was fine, but when I ordered the ink, I asked for 3 boxes, one of the boxes wasn't full. It was supposed to have 30 inks, and only had12. Not impressed at all. I e-mailed them, and haven't heard from them yet.


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Posted by leogexx from IP: 96.48.165.116 on 02/07/11
Fraser Valley BC Canada

I did my apprenticeship in 1990/1991 and all my pens were getting old and outdated . So I bought some cheap ones of ebay and I bought a Hildebrant professional kit. I just did a large cover tattoo with the hildebrandt pens and they performed great for hours without adjustment. I was a bit aprehensive about tattoo pens without contacts on the back spring but I was pleasantly surprised . I thought the clip cords and foot switch were really cheap so I switched them with some better quality ones I have. The power unit has two set ups so you can have your liner and shader set up differently and all you have to do is flip a switch to change pens.The pre sterilized needles andtubes sure save time in setting up.I have pens that cost a lot more than the Hildebrandt kit but I think for the price the Hildebrandt kit would be hard to beat.


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Posted by sickenink from IP: 24.8.58.50 on 02/08/11

After my apprenticship i purchased a couple starter kits, one from ebay, proper chinese trash, and one from painful pleasures, on ebay i spent 68 bucks, painful pleasure almost 300, point is they were both garbage, i own 4 hildbrandts, and 2 swash drives, the hildeys r a great machine, some cheaper parts on them but all can be replaced. i've noticed a lot og people on here refering to them as guns, even noz who is claiming to be the best artist on the planet, if ur still calling it a gun please for everyones sake stop running ink, abd to the individual that claimed these machines cause scarring, if have to disagree, 2 things cause scarring; 1, running too deep, 2, improper aftercare, i've done my own ink that has scarred too but that was an over compensation in depth due to me backing off my point cuz it hurt. pros use them, i've been doing this for 17 years and these machines are right on par with most high end machines


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Posted by jen from IP: 184.218.141.124 on 05/31/11
norfolk,va

I'm mad. I got the hildbrandt power supply and used it a few times and then used it about 4 weeks ago not even and I'm was about to give myself a tat and the damn thing wouldn't even start. No blue screen nothing. Wtf happened. I never miss treated it or anything so why???? Please someone tell me. Is there anyway to fix it or call it died?


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by noz from IP: 142.162.29.185 on 06/09/11

you bought a piece of shit. you deserve this because you are stupid.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by Scott from IP: 74.215.197.237 on 08/29/11
Cincinnati, Oh. 45215 USA

I understand that the majority of the professionals say that Hildbrandt is garbage. But what about a beginner? Would it be sufficient EQ to use for a beginning tattooist just entering the trade? I am a great artist, with a pencil and a sketch pad. I am hoping (and praying) that my talent can be utilized with a tattoo machine as well. I plan on starting out on a Hildbrandt gun and I hope this is a prudent decision.


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Posted by Newby from IP: 71.195.112.112 on 09/14/11
USA

Let me start by saying I am an apprentice in my second year, in a full time working shop. About six months into my apprenticeship I ordered the Hildbrandt Starter Kit. I ordered direct and not threw "ebay". It took a little over a week to reach me. I immediately went through everything. Checked tension, gap and the running sounds and various voltages. The have performed fine for working on practice skins. I have replaced "springs", "Armature Bars", "Contact Posts and various other parts( wing nuts and installed shims). The coils were replaced when I learned how to wind and wrap my own. Big change! Now… on completion of my first year my Artist Instructor gifted me a "Aaron Cain Custom Machine". It has become my "Go To" Liner. Huge difference in quality and performance, also price. It's is most definitely a "Pro Machine" There are many different kits out there to start with. I have yet to use these machines on a "Live" Subject. I have heard horror stories of other machines and really don't have any to post regarding these. Are they "Pro"…NO. But for the money and as a learning platform they will do the job.


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by darko from IP: 174.255.82.109 on 09/25/11
indiana

I started out with a cheap tattoo kit ($80.....not recommended) which included 2 machines power supply and the works...
After about a week of frustration I bought a $40 handmade shaded from a seller on ebay which turned out to be a 1 in about a million odds of being a good machine but suprizingly it turned out to be decent(rare). Then I decided that I needed a quailty liner and knowing that I would find another 1 in a million shot at getting one on ebay I decided that id go with an established company with the best guaruntee of service I could find that would fit my budget of under $100. I decided to go with the Hildbrandt. .30 Carbine 8wrap liner for around $70. I still use this machine today and my opinion is this....

If you are looking for dependable, well rounded machine and aren't able to spend hundreds of dollars on some high end machines like Fallen Kings or other handmade machines.....id absolutly recommend Hildbrandt....especially if you're just starting out.
Yes, the do run a lil higher on voltage( mine does at least) but the warranty alone will be worth it.
Put it this way, I received my hildbrant in the mail WHILE I was doing a tattoo for my cousin and BOTH of us were happy it showed up. If you've got one of the cheap ebay garbage kits like I had, hook it up and run it then switch to your hildbrant and try to tell me there's no difference. The sheer wieght and feel alone is crazy. I get absolutely NO mis fires and you'll notice that right away. Mine came to me clean as a mother in a nice little display box with the hildbrant eagle on it. I really thought I had a beauty,....lol. Sexy machine.

I feel like my hldbrandt was a stepping stone in my tattoo career...lol. Eventually you will grow out of it and into some more expensive and extremely high.quality machines. I just bought 3 joshua carlton machines, liner, packer, and shaded for $780 (which is.a good deal......I think) but untill they get here my hildbrant does just fine.its a good machine for learning with and yes, there are way better machines out there....but not for under 100 bucks.

Point is, if you got $500 to spend on a machine.....get a fallen kings machine or a seth cifierri, aaron cains, joshua calrton.

If you got $60-100 to spend.....get a hildbrandt (at least the liner)

If you got about $20-40 to spend on a machine.....DO NOT BUY ANYTHING!!!! SAVE YOUR MONEY A LIL MORE AND BUY A HILDBRANDT...


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Posted by lizzardsgizzards from IP: 98.71.155.200 on 10/04/11
S.C.

ive used the 44the 38 and the valstrud the first were ok nothing to bitch about good liner and great shader easy to tune but valcrum makes chinese look good what apiec of crap i'll stick mt inernationals thank you and but the ive seen many ppl on the thread talk about there guns come how long you been slingin Calling ones sacred Tattoo machime a gun, is like calling ones mother a whore!!! when i apprenticed ever time i said gun i had to write that 500 times witha pencile and $ d batteries taped to it and never lifting my hand till i changed pages


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RE:Hildbrandt

Posted by jay from IP: 142.162.62.241 on 10/25/11

fallen kings are good machines, but they are way over priced for assembly line off the rack machines. a better choice would be anything from workhorse irons.

and hildebrandts are garbage.


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Posted by The Illustrated Man from IP: 198.228.220.7 on 12/03/11
Portland

Iwondered about the Hildbrandt stuff as well. After a lot of research I contacted the company directly and was given an interview by the owner. It answered a lot of questions for me. If you're interested the article is posted here:

http://the-illustrated-man.blogspot.com/2011/12/industry-spotlight-hildbrandt.html


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Posted by El Chuco from IP: 68.109.4.103 on 01/15/12
Virginia Beach Va. USA

You have to be careful with the cheap imitations .. There are many chinese copies!!! Hildbrandt machines are made with thicker material, also they have a number on the bottom of their machines. I have a couple of Hildbrandt machines and I prefer using those over other machines I have. They are true workhorses, and are easy to tune and mod!!


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Posted by b00gner from IP: 174.47.251.156 on 02/21/12
Frenchburg,Ky,USA

First off,( DON'T BUY YOUR TATTOOEQUIPMENT ON EBAY! ) There is not one Tattoo machine out there that China is not copying! Poor copies at that.
They copy everything and anything. That should be what you should be ranting and raveing about instead of making an ass of yourself because you were stupid enough to buy a cheap Chinese knock off! Artists who actually use them know you are full of Crap. I own two of them the 38cal setup from the factory as a shader and .444 Marlin setup from the factory as a liner, and was able to use them without any tuneing of my own untill the contact screw started to wear down. I bought mine strait from Hildbrandt. there equipment by the way is Canadian made ! the guy from South America has trouble getting other companies mailing him machines and supplies. I think he deserved getting an honest answer. Not some Idiot sniffing snot while sitting at his computer spewing bullshit
in between buying Chinese crap on Ebay!!


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Posted by terrell from IP: 166.137.88.47 on 12/08/12
Baltimore, maryland usa

Boogner I don't know u dog but u made the smartest comment on this page. Its sad everyone have to know everything. In bmore false info get u killed n u got a lot of new guys trying to start out and getting Mis informed n u can tell by a person attitude if u should listen because ignorance make the mouth speak in a vindictive and narrow minded perspective. Healing agent don't even cause scaring but it can cause discoloration. The only way ink come out is through the same hole it went in the skin so using oil agents to much to soon keep the actual pores open and ink fade. Yes going deep cause scaring but that's not the only thing....staying in one area to long mutilate the skin and likewise cause a scare. That's the only 2 things gave a scare and the author of the scare is the tattooist directly. The needle and needle only create scaring and the real art to tatting is knowing skin not just slinging ink cuz u can use a lot of secret when u know what skin can n cannot do. We r assisting beginners u guys come on. Go on the site it give history and names of who created the gun and when where n how. It also tell u how to identify fake guns. If u didn't order from Canada u might hate a company whose gun u never even owned....THE KIT IS GREAT FOR A BEGINNER and if u give me a torch and things to fabricate metal I can make a real gun from scratch. If they properly maintained they serve the purpose. Beginners try to come up with 189 and get the advanced kit if u can cuz each power supply is different. Any of them will get u to point b and no they r not China knock offs. Its 2 main guys who started building guns n a garage n the name of the guns r derived from each of their last names put together. This is not for know it all's,this is 4 beginners trying to make it and being Mistguided. Hope info was of help n hope all new pep advance....welcome to the world of creation.


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Posted by tigrejay from IP: 218.186.19.226 on 06/18/14
Singapore

If you are looking a tattoo power supply that's inexpensive but powerful.. Hildbrandt spartan power supply.. for me it was awesome.. I tried the U.S tattoo supply, their power supply was not good, Hildbrandt is enough for your tattoo machine it has 0-18v with 2amps...


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Posted by deeznutz1181@aol.com from IP: 198.228.228.157 on 07/06/14
Bay City, MI48706

I have Hildebrand machines not the cheap ones but . I use them every day. And it all depends on what your using them for and your set up on them. I changed out the front back springs and the capacitor. And it's a beast and also the armature bar. And I love it. Just depends on how you set them up .


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