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TATTOO APRENTISHIP101

Posted by jrod on 05/26/05
CT

ok heres my sole opinion on what makes a good candidate for an apprentice and a few suggestions on how to be a better one.i keep seeing all these posts of people wanting to learn but what have youve done to earn that right?first and foremost you must show that you have heart .be sure you want to learn for the right reasons and lining your pockets isnt the only thing your in it for.the money will come after you build a good clientele and you cant do that if you suck.so heres what i suggest you do before you step foot into a shop and ask the dreded question"will you apprentice me?"
1.put together a portfolio,of drawings pictures of paintings anything that shows what youve got to bring to the table.
2.draw flash !this means 11by 14 sheets of paper with what you think tattoos would look like your version ,line drawings and color versions,make it as best as you can go all out
3.get tattooed by the best,a lot can be learned about this industry by sitting and listening.and the other reason is the expirience that comes from getting tattooed,healing a tattoo properly knowing how it feels in different places is all part of learning.
4.have a positive attitude and be respectful,dont get caught up in shit talking when you dont know shit yourself .theres nothing more offensive than someone who trying to learn to tattoo and already has an oppinion as to who sucks and whos good.you can learn from others mistakes so shut the fuck up and do so.
Heres some of the things a good apprentiship should entail.how to build your own machine and replace parts and make it run properly.if you cant tune a machine you shouldnt be tattooing.
needle making ,even though weve got suppliers who sell needle so cheap its easier to buy them you should still learn how to make them .theres nothing more satisfing when you know you can make youre own stuff.
learn proper sterilization and learn about risk factors in tattooing.this should be number one, we as tattooist put ourselves at risk everyday not enough is said about this.
if you have a good apprentiship you should be drawing and made to draw everyday at the shop .making line drawings learning about stencils and what makes a good line drawing.
and yes cleaning tubes is learning ,its not all fun and games scrub scrub scrub.
you should learn about inks and the differences between them .how to make tattoos work with the body,proper placement of designs.how to talk to people so that they feel at ease when getting tattooed.learn to talk to different types of people .this is an indusrty that brings all walks of life through the doors including people you might not want to deal with but guess what its your job to do so.theres nothing worse than getting tattooed by someone who you cant even talk to it makes the expirence too technical not to say you cant be quiet and just work but be polite .
the more you put in the more you will get out of it .your teacher should be having you sit in on him tattooing people and explaining his application of the tattoo .why to use this liner versus this mag and this is still just the cream of the crop.
so after reading this if you think it sounds like too much work then dont even waste the industrys time.and for those of you who dont know who i am ive been tattooing over ten years and have had the privalege of working with some of the best tattooists on the east coast and i currently work at hopegallerytattoo with joe capobianco and eric merrill.so im not just farting in the wind kids .or maybe i am something smells funny?anyway i figured i would shed a little light on the apprentiship thing.so dont ask just do!the weak shall inherit nothing ,shut up and tattoo!and NO i wont teach you!hahaha



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RE:TATTOO APRENTISHIP101

Posted by PuppFTW on 05/29/05
Baghdad, Iraq right now

I think it is awesome to lay it out for all thoughs who think they want to tattoo. I will tell you I have bought a very basic starter kit. The starter kit is not ment to go through ink on some poor unexpecting smuck, but to see if I could even do it on the fake skin. I realize that the fake skin is just that, but I would rather lay ink on that then to damage another individual because I think I can tattoo or that I want to there for I can.
I have talked to a guy named Terry at Southern Son Tattoo in Fayetteville,NC. he has never said no to an apprentice but has never said yes either. He is a really cool down to earth guy and if the people he tattoos would really watch him they could learn something.
I was wondering though, are the books and video's on how to tattoo even worth buying? I am in the military and would atleast like to learn more about tattooing and the art of flash.
Hey if I could get a response that would be Kool!


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Posted by taz from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 02/11/06
MIDWEST

hey puppftw..I'm taz from tattoo now...ran across your question about tattooing and was just curious about how things are coming. There are those of us out here who really care about the art and are interested in seeing new talent developing...Gimme a buzzz dude!.T


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Posted by taz from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 02/11/06
MIDWEST

I did not mean to say that I am affiliatedin any way with tattoo now I am just a fan of the site and been tattooing for over 30 tears..T


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RE:TATTOO APRENTISHIP101

Posted by mikeb from IP: 64.33.205.53 on 02/12/06
Rice Lake, WI

Concerning the art of apprenticeship...

I live in a part of the state that needs an outstanding artist. I draw and color and re-adjust (is that a word) the flash I have to what I like. I bought one of those "kits" and have put two tattoos on myself. I found I am good and shading (because of art background) and some coloring and blending but am in no way ready to stick a needle in someone else. (fyi, our town has 8200 pop)

I have two issues...
One, it was said to not talk shit about other "so called" artists. Well I have one in my town and I am not the one talking shit about him, his customers are!!! Once they find out I am learning tattooing I have gotten many requests to "fix" what he has fucked up! Hell I ain't even ready yet and I already have business. It is because they have seen the two that I have done on myself (which, by the way are big, inticated, designs..one on my left calf and the other on my left forearm-inner). So what do I do? I don't want to offend future customers by telling them to wait, but I tell them I am still learning!!! and they don't care, they want it fixed!! I still turn them away, giving them my phone number and getting theirs to call back later. All have said they are willing to wait until I am ready....enough about that...

Second. how the hell am I supposed to get an apprenticeship when the only shop in town is almost never open, and does (what his customers call) shit work, I don't want to learn the wrong way first, then have to re-learn the right way later!! I bought an online apprenticeship course, a good setup, and already understand and practice the importance of a sterile and clean work environment...so my question is...why and how am I supposed to get an apprenticeship when the nearest "excellent" shop is two hours from me and I have talked to them and they don't need anyone right now (by the way, they liked my own work). ??????

Mike
ps I work a full time job, am 38yrs old, and have a child.


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Posted by Krystof from IP: 71.192.231.137 on 02/12/06
Off the Map, Easthampton MA

Sometimes you have to travel to achieve your goals.


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Posted by liz from IP: 24.119.81.86 on 02/12/06
gulfport ms, usa

Sometimes its not possible for people to travel to learn our skills, maybe you dont get that one...


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RE:TATTOO APRENTISHIP101

Posted by Krystof from IP: 71.192.231.137 on 02/12/06
Off the Map, Easthampton MA

I get it completely. You don't have time to learn something the right way because you're too busy being a mom to 3 children and have a husband in the military, so therefore you're hoping to get a few tips here and there off of the internet with the expectation of someday becoming a tattoo artist. Since you're obviously in a situation where you can't get an apprenticeship now, maybe you should wait until you can and work on your portfolio in the meantime.


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Posted by bellmb@chibardun.net from IP: 64.33.205.53 on 02/13/06
Rice Lake, WI

Ummmm you lost me there...I am a male, work structural steel and husband in the military?? WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING???

I was asking a question, ok two and just wanted an intelligent answer, that was all.

Apprenticeship are not available in my area and I am looking into shops two hours away.

To be quite honest you degrading remarks aren't appreciated as if you think for one..let me correct myself, you assumed I was a female WRONG, I have three kids..again WRONG, and that I am surfing for free information...WRONG AGAIN, and I am "hoping" to be a tattoo artist, WRONG for the forth time. I am not hoping, I will be an outstanding artist, with practice, proper training, and the knowledge I obtain from reading information be it on the internet, books, videos, and anywhere else I can get it!!! I am not a dumb ass kid looking for hand me out's, I am just trying to weed through the endless amount of BULLSHIT that I come across....need I say more.....


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RE:TATTOO APRENTISHIP101

Posted by Krystof from IP: 71.192.231.137 on 02/13/06
Off the Map, Easthampton MA

this person posted above me and this was on a different thread:

Posted by liz from IP: 24.119.81.86 on 02/12/06
gulfport ms, usa


thank you very much old wise one..i will have to use that on my skins and see how that works out..i appreciate the answer...to the comment before I dont have the means to travel outside of my area I am a mother of three and a military wife and I have to work around thier schedule...again all I asked was for opinions..and i highly doubt every single artist had apprenticeships.

****That is the person who I was responding to in this thread.

Ummmm you lost me there...I am a male, work structural steel and husband in the military?? WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING??? --***** I don't smoke, but if you read who I responded to, you wouldn't be in such a mood where you have to accuse people of smoking things because you didn't hear what you wanted to hear.

I was asking a question, ok two and just wanted an intelligent answer, that was all. *****You received intelligent answers, maybe not the answers you wanted to hear, but you did receive indeed.

Apprenticeship are not available in my area and I am looking into shops two hours away. -- ****It is not uncommon for people to travel 2 states away on weekends or other days off to pursue their dreams of becomming a professional. You'll have to find another shoulder to cry on.

To be quite honest you degrading remarks aren't appreciated as if you think for one..let me correct myself, you assumed I was a female WRONG, I have three kids..again WRONG, and that I am surfing for free information...WRONG AGAIN, and I am "hoping" to be a tattoo artist, WRONG for the forth time.****(well, since you're in the mood for correcting yourself, you can start with the part that I was responding to Liz, not you in that last post).

I am not hoping, I will be an outstanding artist, with practice, proper training, and the knowledge I obtain from reading information be it on the internet, books, videos, and anywhere else I can get it!!! *****( I should hope that you already are an outstanding artist and that tattooing is where you would want to broaden your horizons, but by all means, keep us informed on how all the internet threads, books and videos get you to an outstanding artist level).

I am not a dumb ass kid looking for hand me out's, I am just trying to weed through the endless amount of BULLSHIT that I come across....need I say more....*****(hate to break it to you, but maybe you come across so much BULLSHIT as you put it because you're looking on the internet for technical questions pertaining to tattooing).

------- If you think this is BS, than you have a very long road ahead of you kid. Thicken up your outer shell and don't quit your dayjob.


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RE:TATTOO APRENTISHIP101

Posted by bellmb@chibardun.net from IP: 64.33.205.53 on 02/13/06
Rice Lake, WI

well I think I need to apologize to you.... when I went and read the thread liz's post was not there. So I apologize I thought it was directed at me....Why did I get an attitude...well because all I want to do is be an outstanding artist and am getting frustrated at all the BS and negative attitudes I get. Tattooing is what I want to do, what I will do, and yes I am looking into other shops that I think will teach me what I need to know to be an exceptional artist. I know I am not there yet (not even close) but was trying to find out (through the thread) on better ways to go about it..I know the internet and books, and even videos allow me to get my feet wet, so to speak. But I do understand that I need to find a shop and do my time.

Seeing you seem to know a lot (not being sarcastic) where in wisconsin could I go?? or maybe even MN. Do you know of any outstanding shops that are will to take in an apprentice??? Or a better way to get the information I need???

Again, I apologize for my email behavior....just tired of all the bs..
Mike


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RE:TATTOO APRENTISHIP101

Posted by bellmb@chibardun.net from IP: 64.33.205.53 on 02/13/06
Rice Lake, WI

well I think I need to apologize to you.... when I went and read the thread liz's post was not there. So I apologize I thought it was directed at me....Why did I get an attitude...well because all I want to do is be an outstanding artist and am getting frustrated at all the BS and negative attitudes I get. Tattooing is what I want to do, what I will do, and yes I am looking into other shops that I think will teach me what I need to know to be an exceptional artist. I know I am not there yet (not even close) but was trying to find out (through the thread) on better ways to go about it..I know the internet and books, and even videos allow me to get my feet wet, so to speak. But I do understand that I need to find a shop and do my time.

Seeing you seem to know a lot (not being sarcastic) where in wisconsin could I go?? or maybe even MN. Do you know of any outstanding shops that are will to take in an apprentice??? Or a better way to get the information I need???

Again, I apologize for my email behavior....just tired of all the bs..
Mike


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Posted by bellmb@chibardun.net from IP: 64.33.205.53 on 02/13/06
Rice Lake, WI

UPDATE!!!

I FOUND A SHOP TO APPRENTICE AT!!!!! It is a little over an hour away, been in business for 15 years, my teacher apprenticed there and has been slinging ink there for 9 years. GREAT, GREAT!! Now I can learn the proper way!!!! Wish me luck

Mike


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Posted by Krystof from IP: 141.154.190.200 on 02/13/06
Off the Map, Easthampton MA

Best of luck to you, an apprenticeship is the way to go, you won't have to worry about picking up bad habbits under a good apprenticeship that you may if you rely on forums and videos/books. Good Luck-
Krystof


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Posted by anthony from IP: 24.195.83.214 on 02/14/06
ny

apprenticeship is a matter of respect ,respect for our trade and respect for the clients who wish to have your work-if its not worth taking an apprenticeship-and making sacrifices-wether it be moving -going part time at your job- whatever. maybe you should reconsider your work alters people forever. working out of your house-starting out and unsupervised is no way to learn to tattoo. most good shops will not hire people who work out of their house-because they always go back and they odviously have no respect.. this is not a slam against anyone-it is a fact of life,this is serious business- if you are not willing to sacrifice to get what you want (working out of your house is not sacrificing) maybe you should sit this one out untill you will-there is no more room in this business for peolpe who dont care about it.


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Posted by Kryptik from IP: 155.8.89.2 on 03/31/06
Augusta, GA currently

Good thread, will have to log on tomm to read the other archived ones.. had questions, and i hope ppl still read this one. I don't want to post a new one if i don't have too or not allowed too..

okay, someone said they bought a tat kit and put 2 tats on themself... I, myself browse thru the zine's and online lookin at tat kits... not to buy now, but hopefully one day buy... i just like looking at them apparently... anywho...the guy who bought one and tatted himself twice... he was the one who was still learning... so if you've never handled a tat gun in your life, let alone picked one up, and you went out there and bought one, and you don't have an apprenticeship and yet you want to learn, and you got a portfolio built, how is it you're gonna attempt to tat yourself by yourself?

(plz read the above slowly, i know i sometimes don't always make sense to some ppl)

Someone told me that if you bought a tat kit, and the fake skin that that might be good... but that one who posted said the fake skin is no good... Someone else told me that tatting up an orange (the fruit) is actually better because it holds the color... is that true? Is an orange more realistic to skin then the fake skin???

also, if i ever ended up buying a tat kit, i'd want to make sure i knew what the hell i was doing w/ it first before i ever apply a tat on myself, my friends, or anyone else for that matter... Me tatting me, i'd be worried about the pressure and how much to apply when tatting... <-- to me that seems like one of the hardest parts to learn... I use to be in the Veterinary Technology major in college (i was Crim. Justice, then Vet Tech, then went back to CJ)... anywho, in Vet Tech, we had to perform surgeries on our rodents (rat/mice/rabbit). W/ the rats and mice it was very hard to perform blood draw procedures amongst our other surgeries we did on them becuase of them being small and wiggly for one, and thin skinned in the areas we were gonna poke into... not to mention they fk'n fight you to the death whenever you just want to pick them up let alone stick something in them.... i remember when i had to do these surgeries and how you had to aspirate to make sure you weren't in like a major vessel (depending on the operation you were doing... we weren't always doing blood draws...) I remember wanting to know and study everything there was to know so that i'd do the procedure correctly and not fuck up or even poke myself... I remember being nervous and afraid at the same time...and that's just me on a damn rodent..... I've done major surgeries and minor ones on rodents before... you can imagine what one goes thru on things like these... and i do want to learn the art of tattooing.... and you can imagine i don't want to relive the experience i went thru w/ those animals... i don't believe in hurting things, especially animals, becuase i am a big animal lover... I ended changing majors for a couple of reasons.... but 1 of them being that i felt like i was harming them more then i was helping them, even though that wasn't true... I did very good in the courses, A+ across the board... but i just didn't feel good about doing that to the animal... and i'm afraid of stepping into this kinda of cuase this would be on a person, which is a way bigger deal then a rodent... which is why if i do get into this, i want to be fuckin perfect at it, or the best that i can be at it...

so i guess you can say is yeh, i really want to do it, i have the drive, the interest, the heart, the obsession w/ it... and i don't want to get into it for reasons of lining pockets.... i want to get into it because i freakin love to draw this shit... i just love it...and i want to do more of it... When i was home for vacation (2 weeks military leave), i wanted to do so many things, w/ my fam and friends right... that went out the window as soon as i stepped into the Augusta airport, cuase while waiting in all the airports i stopped in and on the trip home, i was drawing. When i was eating, i'd draw... and when i got home, Draw... all my weeks for about 8 hrs straight a day, i'd draw... the only thing i forced myself to get up to do was go take a shit and eat and i'd bring the food up to my room, so i could draw and eat at the same time... cuase i couldn't break away from what i was doing... and now that i'm here in Ft. Gordon, that's all i do... draw whenever i have the free time... draw on my duty, my guard shifts... sham out duty to draw, when the weekends come either stay onpost to draw or go offpost to the tat shop i go to sometimes chill at where i get my tats done and i draw there... It's gotten to the point of where i now am thinking about getting out of the military so i can go home and just have all the time in the world for drawing... and yeh, go to school and get a job so i can supply my food and shit, but draw... i've just become fuckin obsessed w/ this stuff... i love it to death man... all the stuff i ever used to love, music, gaming, dj-ing, drawing has replaced it. drawing has become my main focus, it's become my life... i draw tats for ppl on this base, Ft. Gordon, both soldiers in training and permanent party... and i do it for free.. i thought about charging ppl, but i can't do ppl like that.. that's just not really me... i'm happy the person is coming to me, bringing me and idea that they want on them and they want me to draw it for them... i'm happy just cuase of that. i'm happy that the stuff i draw for them or my stuff i alone draw ppl like and they're getting tatted on them...it's like an honor to me...the only thing i can compare it too is composing a track, putting it up for download so ppl can listen to it, and you got your exposure right there...

i'll come back on, i gotta go eat, i'm hella hungry.. i been on the pc now since like 9am (drawing too for my website)... i'll be back...


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Posted by TAz from IP: 207.192.197.135 on 03/31/06
Midwest

Krytk or whatevr! Where can we see your work?????...TAz


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Posted by Lord Mortis from IP: 24.12.40.84 on 04/21/06
hell

Greetings to all, I am just discovering your site for the first time, and this is my first post. Firstly I want to mention that this would seem to be a great site, and I am sure I will return often.

I first started tattooing in 1982, I lived in an area where the tattoo industry was monopolized by one of the greats. In those days apprentiships were a rare thing. So like alot of people I am completely self taught, but dont get me wrong, im not saying that learning from a professional is optional, to the contrary, I feel that in todays world with "cheap" equipment so readilly availble to newbie scratchers, that learning from a Pro is the best way to go if your serious about the art. As I said I am completely self taught and it was a long hard road learning, I did get a little lucky, not long after I first started scratching, an artist I admired and respected seen my work, while he would not give advice, but he did give me my very first supply catalog and insisted that I purchase from this company if I were going to continue doing skin art(subsequently the supply company supplied only the best) Since then I have learned sooooooo much, and I am constantly working to be progressive in my trade and art.

I guess the bottom line is for people who are interested in tattooing dont buy a kit and get started, dont buy cheap machines from ebay.
if you are buying somthing cheap, it will reflect in your work. what the new upcomming tattooist should do is work on your flash, and keep working on your flash, get tattooed by the true pro's and watch them work carefully, sure it will cost you, but good tattoos are worth it. after you have spent a few thousand on work, then perhaps it would be a good time to seek an apprentiship from a professional, the newbie tattooist will get turned down alot, but dont get discouraged, and keep working for your goal, if you endeavor to persavere you will find that the professionals will start to respect you for your dedication, and an apprentiship will soon fall your way.

and yes your apprentiship will last a couple of years, and yes there will be many tasks that you may feel you are above doing, but everyone must pay thier dues when learning a trade. also keep in mind that tattooing is a very personable trade, Tattoo Masters MUST be outgoing and personable people with the ability to converse and communicate with every personality type, if you cant talk with people, then tattooing is not for you.


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Posted by TAz from IP: 207.192.197.135 on 04/21/06
mental institution

Lord Mortis...Where can we see your work?...TAz


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Posted by Lord Mortis from IP: 24.12.40.84 on 04/21/06
hell

Taz, I will get some of my work posted soon, please email me, there are a couple of things I would like to discuss with you, if you have the time.


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Posted by Bahsmustang from IP: 66.21.217.94 on 05/03/06
Memphis, tn, usa

You are so fucking right it's stupid. I'm a tattoo apprentice and it's hard work. Since I've started i've seen so many other guys come into the shop and think that being an apprenticeis just sitting on your ass doing nothing but drawing and watching, but it aint.You have to earn the right to be a tattoo artist and if your teacher tells you to clean 50,000 tubes you'd better just Fucking do it because he DOES NOT have to stop what he's doin' to teach you. Thank So much for posting that. I've got it posted on the wall at the shop.


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Posted by TAz from IP: 207.192.199.146 on 05/03/06
Home for wayward girls

Hey Bahsmustang!...Thanks for your post ...it means a lot to hear from guys like you who are sreious about this ancient art of ours!

Are you tattooing yet?...If so can we see some of your work?


Hope to hear from you again ..and keep us posted on how thinds are goin for ya!

Keep in touch and let us know if we can be of any help!!

Taz , Painted Angel Studios


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Posted by Crockett from IP: 207.200.116.5 on 05/03/06
CT.

thanks bahsmustang for letting people know where its it in this trade. so many people think we just sit on our ass and tattoo or draw all day. its long days with lots of work and more work when you get home if you want to excel and keep up with your appointments. it is also a very rewarding, exciting, never ending learning process that i wouldnt trade for much else. keep up the hard work it pays off in the end. nothing good comes easy!


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Posted by Pranx from IP: 203.105.95.17 on 05/30/06

Wow you guys really are old school in your opinions regarding tattoo apprenticeship. While I agree that apprenticeship is a great way to go, I'm here to tell you I've been tattooing for about 2 years now. Not that its a long career, but I've been steady tattooing about 3-5 people a day so I've got some skin under my belt. I've never had any complaints about my work, never caused infections etc in any of my clients and I never did apprenticeship. Call me crazy but when I tried it seemed too much like a fraternity with the way I was treated, and sorry but fuck that I'm not scrubbing toilets with an electric toothbrush to "get the feel for vibration." I taught myself to tattoo by watching as I got tattooed, and some basic videos. I bought a kit and some practice skins and went to town. My first tattoo was on myself, which I recommend with anybody tattooing for the first time, it came out extremely well. As for learning to sterilize and that stuff, go to your local hospital, they have vids and sometimes classes in blood borne pathogens etc. Ok so the jist of this post is for all those who don't have the luxury of a nearby apprenticeship, or just don't feel like putting up with the bs of an apprenticeship. There are other avenues, not that its always going to be as successful as mine, but its not impossible. ( And as for having to be an apprentice to be considered a real tattooist, F-that thats a bunch of garbage, a real tattooist creates good art on skin and follows the code of health when doing it. So if you do that it doesn't matter where you learned or how, you ARE a tattoo Artist)


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Posted by taz@paintedangel.com from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 05/30/06
Painted Angel Studios

How about showing us some work there Pranx?...Back your claims up...no one else has!


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Posted by caribou from IP: 209.29.53.2 on 05/31/06
Schefferville Quebec

Taz, you read my mind!...No, wait, you tattooed that idea onto my brain and now I find myself asking...,"what would Taz ask?" WWTA!!!!!


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Posted by kmesiano@yahoo.com from IP: 24.233.134.214 on 05/31/06

I would like to see some of your work also........get on it.


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Posted by J-Werk from IP: 168.166.22.15 on 05/31/06
Abby Normals House for the Talented and Gifted

I have 6 more hours of work left and I wouldn't mind seeing something iteresting come out of this....Bring on the skin-folio.


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Posted by J-Werk from IP: 168.166.22.15 on 05/31/06
Abby Normals House for the Talented and Gifted

5 hours.....


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Posted by J-Werk from IP: 168.166.22.18 on 05/31/06
Abby Normals House for the Talented and Gifted

4 hours....


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Posted by J-Werk from IP: 168.166.22.18 on 05/31/06
Abby Normals House for the Talented and Gifted

3 hours....


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Posted by saiyge from IP: 24.164.190.123 on 05/31/06

-blinks-


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Posted by J-Werk from IP: 168.166.22.14 on 05/31/06
Abby Normals House for the Talented and Gifted

2 hours....


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Posted by J-Werk from IP: 168.166.22.14 on 05/31/06
Abby Normals House for the Talented and Gifted

Starting to get teary eyed....


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Posted by J-Werk from IP: 168.166.22.15 on 05/31/06
Abby Normals House for the Talented and Gifted

5 minutes and the bottle is still corked....don't let me down....!


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Posted by J-Werk from IP: 168.166.22.15 on 06/01/06
Abby Normals House for the Talented and Gifted

6 hours to go again....Only now the ice is melted and the bottle in room temp....just like senior prom...*tear*.


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Posted by J-Werk from IP: 168.166.22.18 on 06/01/06
Abby Normals House for the Talented and Gifted

1 1/2 hours left... starting to lose feeling in my ass from sitting here and waiting for some pics!!!


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Posted by taz@paintedangel.com from IP: 207.192.199.146 on 06/01/06
home for wayward girls

So what happens then do ya turn into a turnip?


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Posted by tntchristmas from IP: 216.49.227.64 on 06/20/06
Kansas

I hace looked around, called around, and just talked to people in general, but to app. around my area....it will cost anywhere from $4000.00 to $10,000, and I was just wondering if this sounds about right? They also told me it would be for 6-8 months....depending on how much I want to work. Am I in the right playing field, or am I getting jerked around?


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Posted by taz@paintedangel.com from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 06/20/06
Painted Angel Studios

If you have no tattoo experince 6-8 months is just a starter.....if you are gonna pay 4-10 grand for an apprenticeship then just be careful who YOU choose as a mentor....assholes abound in this profession....you may be better off spending that money on art school....get good enough that when ya show your portfolio to a shop owner they beg YOU to apprentice...

Good luck TNT christmas....let us know how things go ...keep in touch...btw...where can we see some of your artwork?

And please PLEASE stay away from those rip off tattoo schools!!

We will look forward to hearing from you!...TAz, Painted Angel Studios


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Posted by tattooin bitch from IP: 12.217.21.169 on 06/20/06
iowa

Hey all,
Just found the forum and i think ill stick around awhile!!!
I have been tattooing for 2 years did my first year on my own and then moved to a new location and started an apprenticeship the guy was an ASSHOLE to me so i went back to learning on my own and feel quite good about it. i am currently doing my first portrait will post pic when I am finsished.
here is one of my favorite tatt's i did just a few weeks ago on one of my regulars. Let me know if im on the right path and any advice is welcome
http://www.jotomik.com/scorpian.jpg
Thanks all and talk to ya laterz


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Posted by tattooin bitch from IP: 12.217.21.169 on 06/20/06
iowa

Hey all,
Just found the forum and i think ill stick around awhile!!!
I have been tattooing for 2 years did my first year on my own and then moved to a new location and started an apprenticeship the guy was an ASSHOLE to me so i went back to learning on my own and feel quite good about it. i am currently doing my first portrait will post pic when I am finsished.
here is one of my favorite tatt's i did just a few weeks ago on one of my regulars. Let me know if im on the right path and any advice is welcome
http://www.jotomik.com/scorpian.jpg
Thanks all and talk to ya laterz


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Posted by taz@paintedangel.com from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 06/20/06
Painted Angel Studios

And where in Iowa do you work?...I mean which shop?


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Posted by tattooin bitch from IP: 12.217.21.169 on 06/20/06
iowa

Well the asshole i worked for ownes Steal Appeal but like i said i don't work there anymore cause i didn't much like bein treated like shit cause i'm a woman, now i just work outta the house, WHY??


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Posted by taz@paintedangel.com from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 06/20/06
Painted Angel Studios

Work out of the house?...are you and your home based shop licensed?

And don't start ...I am not dissing you...just curious

By the way that tattoo ain't half bad kid!!...Props!!


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Posted by tattooin bitch from IP: 12.217.21.169 on 06/20/06
iowa

mmmmm no.. I know i know but im gettin the money together to open a store front shop asap in the mean time i got to feed the kids and pay the bills. Unless any one in the area is hiring an advanced apprentice give me a hollar i ve still got a lot to learn and willing to be taught!!!


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Posted by taz@paintedangel.com from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 06/20/06
Painted Angel Studios

Hey kid...I may catch a lot of shit for this but I ain't mad at ya!...Those chilluns gotta eat!!....As long as you get in a shop asap
its cool!!

Best of luck and if I can help just drop me an e-mail...
taz@paintedangel.com

Welcome to the forum ...hope to hear more from ya...we need new friends and love to see people getting started...TAz


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Posted by taz@paintedangel.com from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 06/20/06
Painted Angel Studios

Hey by the way Clinton isn't all that far from me!...My shop is in St. Joseph, Mo...drop by and say hello some time kiddo!...TAz


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Posted by tattooin bitch from IP: 12.217.21.169 on 06/21/06
iowa

Hey Taz it's like almost 6 hrs hun why don't ya take a road trip and come ans see me.......lol


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Posted by taz@paintedangel.com from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 06/21/06
Painted Angel Studios

Hey coolio!...Maybe the TAzettes and I will hop up there one a these days...I'm slammed with bookings right now but will be doin a road trip sometime soon to see my pal Ol Doctor John and maybe we can just circle around!!!...I will be in touch!...T


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Posted by SockofAges from IP: 71.107.255.62 on 07/06/06
killacali

Hi folks, nice forum you all have going here. I realize this is an old thread, but having been an apprentice of sorts I thought I'd share my experience for future readers... I have a degree in fine arts, painting and sculpture to be exact, and have been a working professional artist for 10 years, meaning 100% of my income is from creative pursuits- paintings, murals, graphic & clothing design, pinstriping, prototyping... the list goes on. (I make this point because i see so many people wanting to tattoo when in all reality they just aren't very good artists to begin with... If your art is worthless on paper or canvas, you certainly can't expect anyone to pay for it on their skin!)
As an avid tattoo collector and tattoo history buff I had the urge for years to learn to tattoo...sure, I probably could have eventually scratched my way to a half ass tattoo with some shitty kit, but out of respect for the profession and the health of the general public I wanted to go about it the right way. I tried the cold knocks on parlour doors for months to no avail and met quite a few assholes along the way. Tiring of this I went back to getting tattoos, paying close attention to the process from start to finish, bringing in my own thermofax ready artwork (with color reference), and asking as many questions as I could without being a pain in the ass. After several sessions with one of my favorite artists he offered to take me under his wing and show me the ropes (err..needles!). He was able to see that my interest was serious and genuine, my abilities were up to par, and what I believe was most important was that we had built a rapport with one another. We now have an arrangement of professional courtesy- rather than scrubbing shop toilets I offer any of my skills he may need to promote and build his business, from marketing ops to converting his art to screen seps for t's and improving his web presence, and he shares his years of hard earned knowledge with me. While I think the practice of charging outrageous amounts for an apprenticeship is a bit shady, I do believe the apprentice should make some sort of contribution to the teacher or shop, shit, it's only fair. If you have other skills to bring to the table then take advantage of it, most shop owners I've met would love to have an apprentice that just so happened to be a marketing genius or bad ass sign painter...I promise you won't have to wash as many tubes if if you're killin' it on a new sign out front or doubling shop business.
I'm not sure there's really a point here, but if you're looking for an appreticeship spend your time in the tattoo chair wisely, get to know the artist, and let them get to know you. Nobody wants to teach a schmuck, and nobody wants to learn from an asshole...tattooing is a fine blend of art, medicine, and tradition....respect that, respect those that came before you, and you'll in turn be respected.
Happy tat'n everyone. keep up the good work here, I look forward to catching ya again sometime...


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Posted by puppftw from IP: 217.26.84.76 on 07/30/06
TN

Hey I seen some have asked about how I have been. Well, I was offered an apprentiship, but being I am in the service and I can not sit still longer than a couple of months, I moved away from NC. The offer still stands I believe and once I am out in 2011 I am going to continue my apprentiship. I was actually learning how the machine operates. We purchased a liner from HS. He showed me how to put it togther. I would sit in the shop for hours while he worked. So atleast I started. Just I will have to wait for the light at the end of the tunnel to get closer. Thanx for all the support!!


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Posted by taz@paintedangel.com from IP: 207.192.199.146 on 07/30/06
Painted Angel Studios

Hey Pupp...You keep in touch now ya hear!!...Good luck and remember you can accumulate a LOT of knowledge while you are waiting for that apprenticeship...most colleges offer Blood borne pathogen/cross contamination/cpr classes and its always a good idea to take some business courses too not to mention art classes...Go for it Pupp!!!Keep us in formed!...TAz, Painted Angel


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Posted by KeAz from IP: 67.142.130.23 on 07/31/06
Texas, USA

My wife wants to be a full fledged tattoo artist. First, I her a full set of professionall equipment (About 2 grand). She practice on fake skin and didn't like it. (It was nothing like the real thing and expensive to boot). She switched to honey dew mellons. This lasted about 3 months. She had recieved several tattoos by others(prior to this). Her first tattoo on skin was a fairy she did on her own leg. I had seen her drawing, painting, scuplting and even a piece she did on the roof of a trailer on the smoke residue with a sharpen cuetip and it left my jaw hanging open. That's is why I dropped 2K, (now more like 5k) on equipment and supplies. After 3 months of doing it out of our aparment then another 3 out of our now house (We have a room dedicated to it) she went to get a job as an artist. They told her while she was tattoing someone during the interview she didn't know what she was doing. An artist of the shop took over the tattoo and butchered it. (his section is blurry and scarred and her is cleaner(not perfect but fixable). She took an apprenticeship job was there a month and told she wasn't trying hard enough. The artist wouldn't answer her questions and never gave any instruction. She did learn proper sterilization before she left by watching because the shop had a lawsuit against them and were properly following sterilization techniques because of it. She now follows all the health code procedures and laws required by a shop and then some. She now over 100 tattoos under her belt most by word of mouth (having seen her prior work). She even did one for me from a photo. She's now wanting to start as an artist (not an apprentice at a shop). I got her video on tattooing. She did learn to properly tune her gun from them an a little about technique but not much. No tattoo she has ever put on skin (even her first) has been bad enough to be unrepairable. She has repair her earlier mistakes. I've seen a lot of tattoo done by professionals that have raised parts (usually the linework), but the one she did for me I can't find with my eyes closed. The work she puts out is better than most local shops. It's now been 2 1/2 years since she got her equipment. 3months fake skin/fruit 3 months skin out of apartment, 3 months house, 1 month shop apprentice, 6 months of for other work and to reevaluate her self after what the shop told her. 2 more months fruit. 1 year shop quality sterilization and work out of the house. There is now little to nothing an apprenticeship could futher teach her. People are paying her shop prices for her work now (after looking at the work coming out of local shop then seeing her work). She recently covered up the tattoo she used for her first interview with a tribal she designed to his specs. My only question is to any accomplished artists. Do you have any suggestions? What makes a good shop? Questions she should ask the shop?

Also she has friends and family that have supported her since the beginning including myself. Do shops allow you to touch up work you did prior to working for them? Tattoo family at reduced/free cost? What about time off? (I work away from home mostly)

Please give your comments. BTW here is a link to her myspace with some of her work posted (Spawn was a coverup for another apprentice's scratch work) http://www.myspace.com/44547602


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Posted by killer101@yahoo.com from IP: 68.110.197.188 on 07/31/06

Hey keAz,
Your wifes work sucks. Take that ten or more grand that you spent and go get a apprentiship.


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Posted by taz@paintedangel.com from IP: 207.192.199.146 on 08/11/06
Painted Angel Studios

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Posted by steve9111@comcast.net from IP: 68.42.233.60 on 08/11/06

can you get a room in your house approved by the heath department like a shop?


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Posted by taz@paintedangel.com from IP: 207.192.207.158 on 08/11/06
Painted Angel Studios

Very few states or locales will allow that but it has been done...why not just open shop?


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Posted by cravink from IP: 65.2.83.111 on 08/14/06
Miami

One of the main problems with apprenticeships is that most tattoo artist will deny knowledge. Specially those tattoo artist that have been tattooing for years. A person that has been tattooing for over 20 years is a person that most likely grabbed a machine and learned with what was close to their reach.

The whole tattoo "cautious mentality" has been always there but enforced lately. If you look at old magazines or old pictures you'll realize that tattoo artists didn't even where gloves or they operated under today's standard basic requirements.

I truly believe apprenticeships are the way to go but only if you are lucky to be trained by a friend who cares about your goals or at least a person that takes you seriously. Mopping floors and getting coffee and donuts to your boss won't take you far.

Most tattoo artists nowadays they just dislike the fact that tattooing is going (went) mainstream and refuse comply with this trend to expand as such. Miami Ink is an example: that show is what a fashion tattoo studio should look like. 1) they tattoo in an open space (let the germs spread from customer to customer), 2) if I not mistaken the floor is wood (tile please) 3) most of them don't cover their machines, the list goes on...

I am not encouraging anyone to obtain training on their own, but some times books, videos and tons of honey melons iare better than nothing. The problem with handling clients with no experience is that aside from scratching someone you may end up in jail or transmitting a disease. But I do believe that the main problem nowadays is the lack of help from those who have grown experience.


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Posted by taz@paintedangel.com from IP: 207.192.199.146 on 08/14/06
Painted Angel Studios

Bullshit...the problem with this business today is the people who wanna be a tattoo artist and have a sense of entitlement that the pros who have spent years learning the art OWE them something...there are hundreds of artists that are happy to be mentors but at the same time will not be browbeat into teaching just anybody...no way...if a person wants to learn the art they will find a good mentor instead of sitting on their lazy asses complaining about the pros running a "closed business"


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Posted by cravink@hotmail.com from IP: 65.2.83.111 on 08/15/06
Miami

I agree with you Taz but there is a lot of what I mentioned before as well ( a lot )
I would not train some person that has no vision or artistic devotion, I will not teach someone to be a human copier machine, but there are a lot of shops/ artists not wanting to deal with apprenticeship. Basically if your friend is not a tattoo artist you have a long way to go. It used to take architects years of apprenticeship to become really good and making designing structures that will stand (Romans for example) but with architecture university you can become an architect in 4-7 years, not 15 or 20. Unfortunately regardless apprenticeship or not you will get better by doing tats on people and not on melon or fake skin.


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Posted by miguel from IP: 24.64.223.203 on 08/20/06
Duncan Bc

hey there, Ive been wondering how old you have to be to become a tattooist and what is the average salary? I know you can get paid by the piece or hourly pay ( which would suck ). Ive been sketching since i was a child and i started because everybody in my family is an artist, but im hoping to get an apprentice ship starting before im 20 at least, thanx

-miguel-


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Posted by Princess Jer from IP: 67.66.111.189 on 08/22/06
Wichita KS.

Wow again lol , what to look for in a teacher ? I'd say it's different for every person , same as I feel that every one capable of training an up and coming tattooist has their own preferences on who they'd like to teach the art too. I personally believe first and foremost I'd like to have an artist that is in every way imagineable a better artist than myself. That in itself is a bit of a problem due to style and a respect for different styles.What i've done is examined my own style closely and attempted to give it a name. Ask yourself as the apprentice to be what sort of tattoos you'd be most compassionate about doing , Me hell i like them all , even the ugly old anchors and dagger things lol , but if you can throw that new skook color boldness on an old idea you've got something amazing , but I honestly think nothing beats black and grey work. I want to do it all of course who wouldn't , but it's kinda like cars I guess , there's all sorts of mechanics but they all specialize in one area , usually , master mechanics know it all, but don't do it right? So I'd say , hoping it'll help someone, even if it's just me lol , fuck the money , fuck the potential income, follow your passions find your groove in your own art , find an artist in the business with enough know how to train you , who also excells in the same style or styles you're looking to hone yourself. I can't honestly tell anyone this is the best way because i'm still the kid that wants to be an apprentice and wants to be an accomplished tattoo artist, but it's my plan for now.


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Posted by keaz@kreationz.net from IP: 67.142.130.14 on 08/22/06
Texas, USA

Crav... I would only disagree that you won't get better a tattooing practicing on melons/fake skin... When a person with a serious prior art background they can get bet by usuing fake skin/melons... They are good teaching tools in that they can help you learn line work and basic technique of using new tools in particular ink, needle and a tattoo machine which without considering the living skin part of tattooing is the closest you can get to tattooing without becoming a scracther. I know of apprentices at shops whose artist mentor have them tattoo these items before they are ever allowed to touch skin. In my opinion it SHOULD (but usually doesn't) go in this order.

1.Intrest in art
2.Sketching and Drawing
3.Passion for Art (Passion doesn't happen overnight, neither does talent)
4.Demonstratable talent for art (preferably in multiple mediums)
5.Intrest in art as a career
6.Interest in tattooing
7.Getting tattooed
8.Apprenticeship
9.Learning about CC(can be done earlier)
10.Learning about the equipment
11.Practice on non-living skin
12. Supervised practice on self
13. Repeat 7/10/11/12 as necessary
14. Tattooing others
15. Going pro

Total Time Invested for a talented individual from step 1 at a minimum: 6 years.

For those who can't an apprenticeship available:
If you have done everything you can, go ahead and buy a kit and every available resource you can. Practice on Fake Skin/Melons and continue getting professional tattoos yourself. (You'd be amazed what you can learn by watching).

Next:
Bring your "art" (The fake/skin, melons, and non-tat art) to no less than 5 shops and you will get an apprenticeship if you have demostrated talent and the ability and willingness to learn. (Try the artist where you got your professional work first and don't hide the fact you are trying to learning by paying for tattoos from them.)

For current professionals: Would you tattoo an individual who wants a tattoo because they want to become and artist and tells you this upfront, tells you their situation and tells you they are practicing on fake skin/melons?


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Posted by Princess Jer from IP: 65.66.85.42 on 08/22/06
Wichita KS.

I agree with alot if not all of what you say Mr. Keaz. Most imporantly the part about multi talents in multiple art forms. Some author or another I remember reading explained talent as a hand and the areas of those talents are like the fingers of the hands, and everyone's got different fingers ( different talents). It's not so uncommon to find tattoo artists who are also accomplished musicians, or work with canvas , or air brushing, or a number of any other art forms. But I disagree with you on the passion for art or that talent being something you have to earn or work for, Granted yes of course anyone benefits from practice but some are more than just good theyr'e gifted , I'm nto claiming to be one of those , I've had to work very hard just like most people to just simply draw wih a pencil none the less anything else i've done, but for the passion i've had in the arts , mainly tattoos , can't say born with it , but from the first time i saw a great black and grey tattoo , I think it was Paul Booth's design of some winged demon thing on some hot broads back , god she was gorgeous lol , but anyhow , I knew from that time that was the place for me and my passion's built of course due to all the more and more amazing pieces I've seen since then , But even if I'd have only seen shit work since then my passion wouldn't have died , I'd like to think anyhow. I guess I kinda strayed from the point , all apologies.
I like that youv'e put your idea of a time frame in there that was neat , I've talked with a guy that apprenticed two years before he even picked up a machine and another 3 before he was allowed to tattoo customers, In my opinion that showed not only his dedication and devotion to the art form he would have obviously had to have been passionate about but it earned him the respect , which so many of the proffessionals speak of here. I think that the biggest problem with the people wanting to get into this industry , is that times have changed it looks like a quick buck , people are lazy now, I think it's the fella that would tattoo for pennies if he had too that is truly devoted to the art , after of course learning the proper way , but what if the industry crashes , heaven forbid and highly unlikely but would most of the people wanting to get into the business still do it? still strive for it ? I'd like to say yes , but i've not got alot of faith in my fellow man these days. Respectful actions and honorable intentions dont' seem to be running as rampant as people would like to think, my two cents and some change.


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Posted by confidentie2002@yahoo.com from IP: 24.159.137.207 on 10/31/06
Colorado Springs, CO

Hello there. First off I want to start this post by making it absolutely clear that I am not asking for a handout or any sort of help, purely information. For the last year I've been learning from a friend of mine who spent two years apprenticing and working in a shop. By no means is he a master, but he is a professional. Everything I've learned (and I realize that I need to learn a lot more) I have learned from him. He's told me that I was a better tattoo artist after three or four months and that I knew more than he did during his year or so apprenticing. Granted, I take that with a grain of salt. I am a kitchen magician, although I work very sparingly and only for close friends and I try to be as clean and sterile as possible, no dirty dishes or dirty diapers.
Well, that's all just backstory, what I really want to know is whether or not there is such thing as a paid apprentiship, and if so, are they very rare or a little easier to find? The reason I ask is because I am married with a child, and in the military. I'll be getting out soon and I want to make a career out of tattooing. This is not about lining my pockets, it's about putting food on the table. Being in the military, I'm used to pinching pennies, and I'm just asking if I should expect to be doing that while I'm apprenticing, or is there a chance I will be able to get paid?

I realize that as a scratcher, many pros will not want to dignify this post with a response, I know my place in the tattoo world and that's at the bottom, under the shit, and that's fine. I just want to move up and provide for my family. No disresepect intended. Thank you!

Chris


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Posted by confidentie2002@yahoo.com from IP: 24.159.137.207 on 10/31/06
Colorado Springs, CO

oh yeah, here's one of my fav tattoo's that i did on a buddy of mine. just want to put it out there and see what the professionals have to say.
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/Dose206/DSC00063.jpg[/IMG]

and also his feet which i did about a month later
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/Dose206/martinfeet2.jpg[/IMG]

P.S. I'm not sure how to post images here, so hopefully this works


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Posted by confidentie2002@yahoo.com from IP: 24.159.137.207 on 10/31/06
Colorado Springs, CO

damn, i feel like i'm spamming this thread, that's not what I'm trying to do.
Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

I'm not just trying to show off, I'm trying to get some crits and see hypothetically if any of you pros out there would be interested in seeing more work for an apprenticeship (i'm not asking for one, just want to see if any of you would be interested)


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Posted by gabe from IP: 141.154.190.200 on 11/02/06
OffTheMapTattoo.com / TattooNOW

Hey, your not going to find a place that pays you to apprentice I dont think, if anything you will be paying the studio to teach you... I would work on your art like a maniac, though, to get the best deal you can with a mentor...


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Posted by confidentie2002@yahoo.com from IP: 24.159.137.207 on 11/02/06
Colorado Springs, CO

hey, thanks. that's what i was guessing, but i just wasn't sure.


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Posted by Princess Jer from IP: 69.254.254.35 on 11/02/06
KS

Hey at least you're not getting the same old shit thrown at you that most people get when they ask some of the things your'e asking. Probably because your'e asking humbly. I'm not a professional nor a tattoo artist , but I have heard of some guys paying you minimum wage or something of that nature , not to put money in your pocket mind you , to help YOU pay for your apprenticeship. What I've realized in thinking about what to put here is , this is an art like no other, in a business speaking manner. The guys here that have had extensive training under one person tend to carry a bond with them , it's not just the guy that taught you to tattoo anymore, he's your mentor and your friend. and as a friend they're willing to help you do alot of things almost anything. well good friends do anyhow. Most of the "old timers" i've talked with talk of their mentors in very respectful and looking back kind of way. I can't seem to grab the words I was gonna use to comment on how I feel about that so scratch that. As far as ya go , if you love what you're doing roll with it. There's alot of things you can do to help prepare yourself for a professional apprenticeship. Practice your art skills firstly, find out what the laws are in your area about tattooing, knock out some of that stuff on your own, like the blood borne pathogen, asepetic procedures, cpr, cross contamination courses thta your area most likely will have you take prior to licensing as it is. Take some general art courses, alot can be learned on your own to help you before youre' actually in a legit apprenticeship. And find someone who quite frankly makes you feel inferior as far as tattooing is concerned lol not in a negative way , but someon who's art and attitude and disposition towards you and clients and the industry itself puts you in a state of awe. That'd be the guy I"d want teaching me the art and becoming my friend. Best of luck


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Posted by Sexybak from IP: 124.178.162.46 on 12/17/06
perth WA

Hi who ever may read this that may concider, Im 19 yrs old and have grown up with big scary men including my father who ride bikes and have beards and are covered in art from head to toe i love my art and everyone i show it to im a little petite female though and would love to start an apprentaship or discuss my options there anyone that can help please email me c/ Western Health@bigpond


kyah


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Posted by DJMoodswing from IP: 206.223.216.205 on 02/14/07
Ketchikan, AK, USA

Hello everyone! I have a question.....I'm hoping I don't get laughed and cursed off this forum....but please just give me your genuine advice. I live on an island in which there is no tattoo or body art shop. I love art and I enjoy drawing (though I'm certainly no expert artist). Obviously an apprenticeship is the classic way to get tattoo skills and traning, and in fact most states require a state approved apprenticship program completion prior to licensure. However, with no shop closer than 250 miles from me, the reality of a traditional apprenticeship is out of the question. I have some conversations with the owners/directors of The Tattoo Body Piercing Institute:

http://www.tattoobodypiercinginstitute.com/

They offer an apprenticeship for people with location challenges like me consisting of online and video training with 24 hour call support for questions and guidance. THe package includes a decent tattoo equipment setup (from what I can gather). Other than the initial disapproval from many of you who consider earning the rank of tattoo artist by undergoing a humbling apprenticeship program in the tradional sense, - that aside - for MY circumstance - do you think this program has merit? I welcome all thoughts...please don't attack me verbally for my question....the attitude of many elitist tattoo artists is another reason there has been a retreat from traditional apprenticeship programs. Please send me any constructive suggestions. Thanks guys....and gals...


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Posted by ~Josey~ from IP: 74.249.228.17 on 02/14/07
Gold Mine

You must go to the Gold for it does not come to you….


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Posted by woody from IP: 222.71.57.172 on 03/05/07
belgium

hi all, and sorry for my bad english....

when i started my apprenticeship the first week the only thing i did was drawing....why ? because my teacher always tell me that this is the basic to be a good tattooer...
in the beginning i was thinking what the f*ck am i doing here.....
now after learning the skill for over 2 mounth i know why.....
btw, i travelled half the globe (shanghai) to get a apprenticeship,, in the beginning i also was thinking , jesus why i need that apprenticeship...now i'm so damn happy i did it.....i learn so much more then i can learn on the internet.....
and my theacher is cool to me, not a asshole.....
lol,,,,,i even got married here in shanghai.....
anyway, i'm not saying that i will be a great tattooer,,,,i just hope one day i can be on..
And never give up, and practise,practise,......and practise
oh and Taz,,,there is a chinese translation for your name...


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Posted by blargh from IP: 69.29.128.38 on 07/08/07
Missouri

Hi, I was wondering: how long does a traditional apprenticeship last? I've heard of guys starting after 6 months, some after 3 years. What's the norm?

Also, if I'm doing what you suggest - drawing every day, tubes, making needles, setting up and breaking down for my sensei, etc, is there such a thing as being too pushy to start reworks, and touch-ups on other people? I've been at it 9 months, at about 15 hours a week, and I want to start. How do I go about it, while both being respectful, but also confident in myself?

Thanks!
Emmie
Apprentice


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Posted by j-linn from IP: 24.119.12.50 on 09/01/07
Pocatello, Idaho, United States

hey so I just came across this site tonight and just wanted to say first off that alot of the information is very helpful to people starting out. Second, about the difference between apprenticeship and self-teaching and which is better... there are two shops up here, one is run by a bunch of artists that had taken apprenticeships but they ended up getting kicked out cuz they weren't any good and wouldn't listen, so they set up their own shop... the other shop is run by a guy who's self-taught and has been tattooing for the same amount of time(if not shorter) than the first shop... well I saw both their works and the second shop had hands down the better work of the two... the first shop's work looked as though they had just barely started to tattoo, it's what one would call scratching....

also when I had been looking for an apprenticeship I went to the first shop and they charge(if I remember correctly) around $2000 and "a year of your life" to apprentice, but other places I went to would allow you to apprentice as long as you bought your own equipment.... so I decided to take the latter route... I bought my own equipment and even asked my boss what was a good place to get really good equipment... it ended up costing around $800(I had 2 machines, a power supply, clip chord, footswitch, tubes, and grips)... . I got an apprenticeship and within a week he had me tattoo on the "shop boy"... my boss was amazed, as was I, at the quality of work I did for it being my first tattoo.... anyways... I kept tattooing people for about 3 months into my apprenticeship when my boss got attacked in his apartment and almost got beaten to death.... eventually he came back(we had raised enough money to keep the shop open while he was gone) and a mont or so later he started acting odd... his work got worse, he would insult me in front of clients, and wouldn't teach me any new techniques. he'd take over doing tattoos I was doing, and end up messing them up, which pissed the customers off.... then the sh*t hit the fan, so to speak, one day when I was talking with a customer about piercings and which places hurt more than others.... I had told her that for me the worst place was my eyebrow, cuz the nerve endings are so close to my skin in that area... and he overheard that and said "don't listen to her, she's a f***ing p*ssy she can't even handle getting tattooed"(I do actually have a low pain tolerance, but it depends on the location and who's tattooing me).... so we got into a big fight and he was saying I was a spoiled brat and wouldn't accept criticism(which is untrue, I welcomed criticism, and still do) and I decided I had enough and quit... it turns out that he had gotten into drugs(meth mainly) and not even 2 months after I left he got busted by the cops and his shop is no more... currently there's only one good tattoo shop in town(the one I'd mentioned earlier with the self-taught artist) but he's got one apprentice and no room for another... so I decided to do tattoos on my own... I've read the previous posts and know that several of you are adament against self-teaching due to scratching and diseases, but I did listen while I was apprenticing.... it's better, when tattooing, to go too light than too deep... and my mother is a doctor and knows all about creating a sterile work environment(and I also know how to sterilize equipment and surfaces,etc)... and she has an autoclave I can use... and she's informed me on blood born pathogens and all that stuff.... and also I have an art background... I've been drawing since I was little and in highschool I used to draw women on my friends arms using different colored pens, and I also did lettering on them.... if you want to see any of my work you can go to my myspace....

http://www.myspace.com/gothick_angel
when you get to that page then go down to my top friends the second friend is my tattoo page that has pictures of my artwork as well as a few tattoos I've done(I haven't come up with a url for that page yet, so forgive me for making it complicated)

I welcome any comments and/or criticizm as I believe that anyone from the least knowledgeable apprentice to the most skilled artist are still learning the craft and nobody can know every single thing to the art of tattoo..... it's a constant learning process....


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my thought

Posted by flaco_vivas from IP: 70.140.30.209 on 01/10/08
houston,tx u.s.a.

Well i think its real cool what you're doing for the people who really are interested in being a "Good Tattoo Artist". Ive always been interested in being a tattooist but i didnt have the resources at the time.Well now im 27 and recently my younger brother bougth me a tattoo gun for christmas.Well now im doing my researching of the Tattoo business.Reading a book i recently purchased,ive got to see how much ive got to learn about the business,which isnt a bad thing,im very interested in the whole thing,and am willing to take the time to learn and experience as much as possible.In the end i just want to say that i respect and appreciate what you as an Artist and all the other artists do, and hopefully in the near future I will be in the business and doing and sharing what i have learn in the whole process with those who respect it and are willing to learn.Thank you for the insight on how to begin on the Apprentiship and how to keep seeking the dream.............................................sincerely, Flaco.


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Posted by Adem from IP: 12.6.43.201 on 02/21/08

Just be sure to never by a kit for tattooing. As soon as a company knows that you are willing to buy a 'complete kit' they are going to send you nothing but shit. If you are just trying to find a cheap way to start out tattooing, then dont even bother trying. The last thing you want is to be known as a scratcher. No respect in that.


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Posted by zstahlg@gmail.com from IP: 72.49.20.153 on 03/14/08
Cincinnati, Ohio

HELP PLEASE!
I have been reading the posts here and everyone seems to be getting a fair amount of feedback. I am a student at the University of Cincinnati and I decided at a young age that I would make art my life one day. My college offers a wide variety of art programs but I just don't see myself sitting in on a board meeting talking about what new design goes on a fucking cereal box for Kellogg's. It is just not me and not personal enough, but that is the only road presented to me at this time. I am learning about tattooing more and more every day, but I need some solid answers. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am a realist and understand that this is not something you jump into. (I also understand that I know very little, please bare with me on that)
1) I have a portfolio of artwork, so what is the next step? Do I need to set up a meeting with an artist just like when getting a peice of artwork done, or do I just walk in?
2) Is there a place I can find apprenticeships online, like monster or something? If so, how do i go about getting ahold of a shop/artist?
3) I also would appreciate any help with the acual process of asking to be an artists's apprentice. Basically, how do I help them help me and not waste their time? Any and all advice is greatly appreciated.
Zach


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Posted by adikkted from IP: 65.223.107.226 on 03/14/08

Zach,

My first suggestion is to check out tattoo artists in your area where you think you're going to be living for a couple years. Find a good artist with a good attitude. Maybe even get tattoo'd by the artist!

I DON'T suggest talking about an apprenticeship right away. The word almost makes artists "sigh", right now. It seems everybody and there brother thinks because they can do basic sketches that they deserve a piece of the damn pie!

Hang out there a bit, buy coffee sometimes, show an interest in learning the trade. START DRAWING while you're there. If they like your sketches let them know you've got a portfolio(they may ask). If they like your shit...then ask for the apprenticeship.

To answer your questions 1 & 2:

1. Don't set up a meeting, unless your going to get tattoo'd.
Don't waste their time.

2. To the best of my knowledge there is nothing on-line, and if
there is it's probably a gimmick!

Good Luck


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Posted by zstahlg@gmail.com from IP: 72.49.20.153 on 03/15/08
Cincinnati, Ohio

Thank you very much.


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Posted by chepito15@msn.com from IP: 71.118.173.189 on 08/14/08
L.A

I was just wondering what my chances are of getting a apprenticeship with my background. I just left the top art school in California were I was majoring in illustration. I didn't like the idea of me ending up doing commercial crap so i left. I plan on continuing school elsewhere, but would love to begin tattooing as a side job in addition to having my more commercial job later on. Does anyone think that I might have a problem pursuing tattooing as a side job? I'm kind of afraid the word side job would drive tattooers away from taking me under there wing.


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Posted by Inksane Gina from IP: 66.159.152.189 on 08/14/08
CT.

Well, the first thing I would tell you to ask yourself is if you don't want to be artistically stunted by doing commercial art, would tattooing be that different for you? Afterall, tattooing is a service where you have to give people what they want.

Now, tattooing as a professional but only part time? It doesn't seem likely to me. Tattooing is not only a full time job but goes beyond that and into your personal life. This can include drawing up custom pieces in your free time or just self promotion when you're out - or it can involve traveling to do guest spots and conventions, depending on how far you want to take things.

Having said that, many of the very best tattooers do it full time but do other, less restricting art (drawing, painting, airbrushing, etc..) - some of it as creative freedom and often commisioned pieces.

Food for thought... :)


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Posted by rebbie from IP: 195.8.168.252 on 09/23/08
manchester

hey iv been goin to a tattoo shop for about 4 months now as an apprentice iv never thought it would be so hard but it is oh my days i love it though just watchin and lisnin helps too the first day i went in i sat and watched wile my boss asked me questions and looked at my pictures for just the 2 hours i were there i already learnt a little bit i wer so scared everyone around me wer full ov tattoos and piercings now after seeing them everyday i dont even think for 1 minute one of them can be at all scary haha. its easer after a few weeks but still hard work now i just get on with what im doing and enjoy every minute of it and knowing that my boss cant spell ither makes it easer haha i just have to double check things first xxx so sorry for the spelling :) xxxxx bye bye


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Posted by just reading from IP: 65.73.24.168 on 09/23/08
Bullhead City,AZ

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Posted by picture hosting and posting? from IP: 65.73.24.168 on 09/23/08
Bullhead City,AZ

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Posted by husker from IP: 69.145.46.118 on 09/24/08
casper wyoming

good stuff and very very true.Im in my aprentiship and every u said hits it right on the needle.


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Posted by upandcoming from IP: 65.23.101.37 on 10/21/08

alright, i finally may have worked my way towards a proper apprenticeship, and the possibility in my shop of choice is opening up. now i'm getting nervous:
what if my new teacher turns out to be a jerk? i mean, i can scrub floors and take calls and clean equipment for my payment - that's cool. but what if my teacher just "decides" that i'm not trying hard enough to be taught?

i've read all kinds of horror stories about how difficult apprenticeship is, and i'm prepared to lick boots, but what if my artist just drags it out, and does not really teach me anything?

has anyone here had a "good" apprenticeship, and what are the key signs i should look for - that things are progressing properly, or that i'm wasting my time...?

basically, what should one expect out of a GOOD apprenticeship?


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Posted by upandcoming from IP: 71.203.60.27 on 10/23/08

HOLY SHIT I LANDED AN APPRENTICESHIP!!!!

i'm so stoked right now!!

Skinfinity Ink, Winter Haven FL

HELL YEAH!!! I've been researching and building my portfolio for months, and I'M IN!!! FUCKN A!!!!!

boots never tasted so good!!! time to start learning shop and cleaning shit up!!!!

BOOO YAAAAAAA!!!!!!


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Posted by TATT2TONY from IP: 75.92.188.44 on 11/03/08
seattle washington

Well, I am a tattooist of over twentyfive years, have worked with some of the best on the west coast, Danny Danzle, P.A.Stephens, the original Smitty, and am very proud of what was tought to me. I had an apprenticship that was about five years long, When I was learning to tattoo they kept fingers in jars from scratchers, it was a different world then and it was really hard to get an apprenticship, I just got lucky. They liked me, I was very persistent and wouldn't go away. I was tought eveything, I can tattoo on a street corner if I had to, I know how to make needle's, repair tubes, sterilize, repair and build machines, draw designs, put flash together,everthing to do with tattooing. I feel very fortunate to have been tought the things I know, I've had five apprentices and not one of them ever appreciated what I was teaching them, they always think there's an easier way. So I'm a bit jaded. But I think there are alot of good artist out there, as for good tattooist they are far and few. Most of what I do is with a sharpie (freehand), and the things that I come up with amazes me and I'll never stop learning, that is essential to a good tattoo artist. So all I can say is keep pushing forward and never think your the shit becuase your not. Always be humble, never take what you know for granted and if your looking for fame and fortune go be a rock star youv'e got a better chance. I'm not sure if I've said much of anything useful here but at least I got to vent. thanks.


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Posted by TATT2TONY from IP: 75.92.188.44 on 11/07/08
seattle washington

I just wanted to say one last thing, to anyone out there listening. My apprenticeship, I scrubbed floors, painted wall's, ran for coffee I don't know how many times, got food, set up for artist's station,cleaned after they were done tatooing, folded paper towel's, and too much more to even think of. My ( boss's ) were all assholes, it's part of the job. It tought me perserverance and how to deal with other asshole's as there will alot of them along the way. You need to be able to take criticism and not get pissed off, To learn to be Humble, To learn how deal with your angrer. I know it's hard but nothing that's worth anything in life is easy, believe me. You will learn many thing's if you just buck up and deal with it, I wouldn't change a thing about my apprenticeship. Just remember , your not the shit, there's alway's someone better. And stop complaining, if your good you'll make it, just keep learning.


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Posted by helm from IP: 173.68.68.154 on 11/19/08
staten island, ny. usa

an honest aprenticeship is hard to find. most of us dont want to scratch, i shure dont. iv been at it for a year or so, and am mainly self taught. i started tattooing myself, ya know my thighs and what ever i can reach. then i had some friends eager to have me tattoo them. after useing those fake skins, i realizd it was starting bad habbits. you really have to work the ink in tough, so i gave in and inked some friends. i found that i wasnt bad at this. i know my way arround a machine. i have 4, and built 2 of them myself, and have been drawing, and spraypainting(graffitti) for my whole life. any thing art. art has been my passion for life, and wanted to learn to tattoo the proper way. i tried to aprentice at a few shops with no luck, so i kept on teaching my self. research, books, vidios, and tips from local artists,ext. iv done some good work, some better than some work pro's did on me. i finnally scored an apprentice spot at a shop, and it was a desaster. my mentorused and abused me. he ased a number of my artwork on his clients, and never let me watch over while he did them. he taught me nothing. i had a friend come in to add to the work i did on him. my mentor asked why my friend didnt let the guy who started the work, and that it was pretty good. my friend then told him that i did it, and told him i said i wasnt ready to do the kind of work he wanted. my mentor then said, oh ok, and tattooed him. once again i couldnt eaven watch. needless to say i quit. im tired of theese full of them self artists acting like they are splitting the atom.where are the artists who remember where they came from? ones willing to teach? i dont want to scratch, but i seem to have no choice for now. WTF!!!!


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Posted by helm from IP: 173.68.68.154 on 11/19/08
staten island, ny. usa

an honest aprenticeship is hard to find. most of us dont want to scratch, i shure dont. iv been at it for a year or so, and am mainly self taught. i started tattooing myself, ya know my thighs and what ever i can reach. then i had some friends eager to have me tattoo them. after useing those fake skins, i realizd it was starting bad habbits. you really have to work the ink in tough, so i gave in and inked some friends. i found that i wasnt bad at this. i know my way arround a machine. i have 4, and built 2 of them myself, and have been drawing, and spraypainting(graffitti) for my whole life. any thing art. art has been my passion for life, and wanted to learn to tattoo the proper way. i tried to aprentice at a few shops with no luck, so i kept on teaching my self. research, books, vidios, and tips from local artists,ext. iv done some good work, some better than some work pro's did on me. i finnally scored an apprentice spot at a shop, and it was a desaster. my mentorused and abused me. he ased a number of my artwork on his clients, and never let me watch over while he did them. he taught me nothing. i had a friend come in to add to the work i did on him. my mentor asked why my friend didnt let the guy who started the work, and that it was pretty good. my friend then told him that i did it, and told him i said i wasnt ready to do the kind of work he wanted. my mentor then said, oh ok, and tattooed him. once again i couldnt eaven watch. needless to say i quit. im tired of theese full of them self artists acting like they are splitting the atom.where are the artists who remember where they came from? ones willing to teach? i dont want to scratch, but i seem to have no choice for now. WTF!!!!


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Posted by TATT2TONY from IP: 75.92.188.44 on 11/21/08
seattle washington

I'm sorry that you are having such a hard time, but perseverance will get you there. There are alot of cool OLD school tattooist out there and you will find one if you don't get discouraged. I have an apprentice now that is learning very well, she is looking, listening, to everything and most of all learning. She is going to do well for herself, she is learning how to draw for tattoo's, as it is diffferent than drawing on paper. She is learning how to make needle's, build machine's, scrub tubes, work with assholes that don't really know what they want, how to pick peoples brain, how to keep her cool, and so much more..sterilizing..temp. setting...spore testing.. and as she would tell you, it's overwelming. So again I'll say don't give up, it will come to you. Don't stop looking for someone to teach you, be persistant show how much you really want it. I've never charged anything for an apprenticship, I just want the same dedication that I had when I first started. I do not feel that I'm all that, but I did learn from the best and am very greatful as to what was given to me. I do remember where I came from, and also remember when I was where you are. Don't be bitter, just learn and keep at it. perseverance is the key. TATT2TONY


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Posted by JAM from IP: 69.23.215.64 on 12/25/08
rhinelander,WI

hay im pretty young im 16 but im really working towards an apprenticeship theres two shops in my town wich im looking toward and i love to do art and i have started on a portfolio and i was just wonderin like about grades like if there not good will that hurt me in my quest to become a great body modifier cuz im really intellegent but a HUGE slacker but tattooing i take so serious art itself is pretty much my life just lookin for some thoughts thanks

JAM


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Posted by RAGEINGFURY247@AOL.COM from IP: 71.228.169.47 on 12/28/08
LAFOLLETTE .TN

IM HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING A PLACE TO APPRENTACE THERE ARE A TON OF SHOPS AROUND ME IN KNOXVILLE TN BUT NO ONE WANTS TO DEAL WITH A APPRENTACE RIGHT NOW I HAVE BEEN RUNNING TATTOOS FOR 2 YEARS MAINLY ON MYSELF BUT I HAVE GOT GOOD ENOUGH TO TATTOO ON A PROFESIONAL LEVEL THERE IS HOWEVER A TATTOO SCHOOL IN COLORODO I WAS LOOKING INTO MY QUESTION MAINLY IS HOW DO YOU RANK A TATTOO INSTATUTE TO A APPRENTACESHIP? IF ANYTHING IT MIGHT MAKE IT EASIER TO GET AN APRENTACESHIP . PS THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVICE


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Posted by Doctor John from IP: 69.209.136.121 on 12/29/08
Fraser,Mi

While there may be an exception, tattoo schools are essentially a rip-off, do not teach you what you really need to know to be qualified to properly be able to tattoo people and are basically out to make money of gullible people. Some get paid thousands of dollars and supposedly teach you everything you need to know in two weeks, which should give anyone a good clue as to what they are really about. Many of them have popped up in recent years, due to the increase in popularity in tattoos and the fact that there are far more people looking to learn how than there are skilled tattoo artist out here to apprentice them. Call any reputable Tattoo shop near you and tell them you learned thru any of these tattoo schools and you'll see how worthless their diplomas really are. The sad fact is there are far more people looking to apprentice than knowledgeable artist willing to apprentice them, which, again, has opened a market for them.


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Posted by gabe from IP: 68.112.240.209 on 12/29/08
TattooNOW/Off the Map/Tattoo Gathering

I would try to get into the Ringling school of design in sarasota florida. Every artist I knew that went there has been bad ass at both illustrating others ideas, and expressing themselves with their own unique original art. I dunno if the enteurnece exam, or the calles/peers, or what, but in the last 15 years of working with artists for video games and tattooing, many sick artists have gone their. If your artwork bloes people away and your getting tattoos by the very best, then you will get great advice and have the artwork to back you up. Tattoo schools and hacking out of your house really arent the responsible way, and fuck the publics skin up...


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Posted by ltkrisp from IP: 24.176.183.16 on 01/20/09
Lake Tahoe,NV

I think the advice is sound, a little cocky, but useful.
I have a degree in fine arts, have "sterile tech'd" surgical equipment.
I have drawn and played music since I was born..
I have applied to several areas in Reno and got a hit b/c of the points written in your article. Not chance either..
I wasn't trying, its who I am..
Be yourself, love tattoos for what they bring and the entourage of people too.
Blood no one likes to deal with, but you get over it when you learn safety 1st like sterile tech work done professionally in a national hospital (BASS).
I was in the culinary industry for 13 yrs before college as a non-traditional student.
My degree earned in 2003 still left this left hander hanging on what would make me happy.
I might be apprenticing for this owner in Downtown Reno,NV soon, but once on I cannot do any side jobs due to shop contract.
Tattooing is not a solo-gig and you do need to learn from the biz, but having some of the traits I offer to the industry is a small way I can show some of you what road you walk on is where you can end up at....
Ciao


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Posted by lilthaclown@yahoo.com from IP: 97.93.216.144 on 02/11/09
Texas, United states

ok i was reading all of this and i have found some good tipping on wanting to become a apprentice and i would love to learn to tattoo and i have already done afew tattoos on my self and some other people. i need more practice and work . i'm having a lot of trouble with outlining bur my lines are getting better.
One thing i would really like a professional to reply to this i really want to learn to tattoo and do better at it.


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Posted by 7stars from IP: 76.177.106.47 on 02/22/09
Winchester, ky, usa

to irod. thank you. after reading tattoo apprenticeship 101, i got my apprenticeship a week later.. i read about tons of people trying forever to get one and i was worried that i would never make it. but i did my research and took your tips and landed one on my first try. Mike and Shane are really nice and extremely talented and i love working with them. they have turned down tons of apprentice wanna-be's. but im their first and i know its because of the way i went about it.

to anyone still trying, take this to heart. it evidently works, and good luck.


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Posted by SkinInk from IP: 76.182.134.101 on 03/15/09
Madison, Indiana

10 years, and you still cannot spell "Apprenticeship" ???

What makes you think anyone would "want" to learn from you? You sound like a hack...it is people like you that make the art community look down on tattoo artists. And I should know, since I own my own gallery, and have been painting and sculpting for 26 years.

You think you know what you're talking about because you have stuck needles in people for 10 years? You think pages of flash teaches a person to be an tattooist? I think that you have wasted 10 years of your life, and wasted the time of the readers here who actually want to learn.

I have been tattooing for 3 weeks, and I am pretty confident that I know as much or more about the technical aspects and history of tattooing than you do.

Next time you write a long-winded article, try spelling the words correctly, and don't act so narcissistic... maybe then people may listen to you.


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Posted by Inksane Gina from IP: 66.159.180.115 on 03/15/09
CT

To the poster above me. Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!

You're dumber than that Jim Carey movie. Der, what's it called?

You have set yourself up for failure with that "know it all" attitude. And you DID post your work in that other thread, you stupid tit.


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Posted by redheadedAttitoodle09 from IP: 174.131.45.236 on 03/30/09
Ocala, Florida, United States

I have been getting tattoos for 15 years now, I am an artist who wants to be a tattoo artist, I have been serious, at first because I am a woman, and there weren't very many women tattoo artist 15 years ago atleast not where I live, there was the whole stigma of being a woman to deal with, but more often than not I have gotten the whole attitude from different tattoo artist that tattooing is serious, duh! " just because your a talented artist, doesn't mean you can tattoo" duh! dealing with skin is different than a paintbrush, different than paper, and so on. of course I also get the whole not all art is good for skin, and putting your work on someone is for life the whole speel about doing a bad tat on someone and it being your work. I have work on me that isn't what it was supposed to look like, I'm ashamed to say it was my design, but not because the design was bad, but because the tat artist decided to make some changes to it when they had the gun in thier hand, not the design process. I don't want to be that kind of tat artist, I don't want to do "bad work" my own daughter has a tat of my design, I just didn't hold the gun. it is good, it is what she wanted and I am proud. I guess my whole point is that not all the people who want to be an apprentice want to just for the money they might make as a tat artist, not all apprentice wannna be's don't realize how serious it is, and that maybe it would really be nice to come across an encouraging attitude once in awhile from those in the business. some people want to be an artist for the love of the work. oh and I have a tat gun now, and I have put it to real skin not the fake stuff, and it wasn't bad. kinda a b**** having to do it without someone of experience there to give you pointers, not the way I want to learn, but when you want something bad enough and your too broke to come up with thousands to apprentice somewhere, you do what you got to, and atleast it's on my body, so if its bad only I have to live with it.


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Posted by j_manzer123@rocketmail.com from IP: 68.227.143.17 on 04/11/09
baton rouge, la

i tottally agree. i just did my first tattoo a couple a days ago. and the experience was the best. i would do any amount of work. even if it takes ten years(a little exagerated) but it doesn't matter, you just got to pour your heart and soul into learning the art of tattooing. well i got to go.


jon


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Posted by xXQUIZITXx from IP: 12.152.10.64 on 04/13/09
Rock Hill ,SC,USA

YO Taz i have been on this site for a while now every day but usually keep to myself .
I have just finished my apprenticeship and and know how you feel towards scratchers and people think they have what it takes and shit so I just sat back and stayed to myself and read what ppl posted and yourself trying to learn from you all as well as my mentor .....By the way i still am learning (was apprenticed for 3 years ) and really just wanted to show you some of my work seeing is how I know how you like to see ppls work and not talk about it.....so hit me up if you would like to see....
And hopefully some of what I wrote here show you that i have been paying attention and my dues ...
Just looking for an opinion of someone that has the experience...
Thanks


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Posted by Roger916 from IP: 99.2.66.8 on 09/05/09
Jacksonville , Fl Usa

I Did the whole apprenticeship thing paid my money paid my dues (cleaned, scrubbed,believe me i cleaned more than i did anything for a long time) i paid good money for this training and began learning and i did learn alot.... sterilizing isnt easy and thats reason enough why everyone needs to apprentice...to make a long story short i got to a point where i did a couple supervised tattoos and then the guy training me got a job offer somewhere in california and so i was screwed out of money i would never do a tattoo in the wrong conditions and now i just feel screwed because i i dont have the money to pay for another apprenticeship and dont know really what to do becuase i dont want to give up on tattooing it is not only a passion of mine but so much more to me i just dont know what to do the only shops that seem to give free aprenticships around here is the shity shops id be ashamed to learn from becuase they do work that looks like home scratchers i could deff show some pictures of my first tattoos whenever i can get them uploaded


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Posted by Roger916 from IP: 99.2.66.8 on 09/05/09
Jacksonville , Fl Usa

I Did the whole apprenticeship thing paid my money paid my dues (cleaned, scrubbed,believe me i cleaned more than i did anything for a long time) i paid good money for this training and began learning and i did learn alot.... sterilizing isnt easy and thats reason enough why everyone needs to apprentice...to make a long story short i got to a point where i did a couple supervised tattoos and then the guy training me got a job offer somewhere in california and so i was screwed out of money i would never do a tattoo in the wrong conditions and now i just feel screwed because i i dont have the money to pay for another apprenticeship and dont know really what to do becuase i dont want to give up on tattooing it is not only a passion of mine but so much more to me i just dont know what to do the only shops that seem to give free aprenticships around here is the shity shops id be ashamed to learn from becuase they do work that looks like home scratchers i could deff show some pictures of my first tattoos whenever i can get them uploaded


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Posted by stizarr from IP: 75.121.22.48 on 09/26/09
ar.

exactly what i needed to know and wanted to hear


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Posted by ToxicNightmare from IP: 203.161.103.177 on 12/01/09

I find this extremely helpful, i'm not old enough to get an apprentiship but i do know i would love to be a tattoo artist, im not braggimg but i CAN draw, i even got compliments and advice from a local tattoo artist, i just would like to say that this is very helpful and i've seen what amatures do to piss off experienced and very professional tattoo artists, so thank you very much :)


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Posted by klute kalevra from IP: 70.40.246.207 on 12/20/09
gren bay wi

some of these cock suckers are just so insecure about thier own talents that they will try to demolish any and all hope from a new and upcoming artist(we all are in reality) that thier only defense is to talk stupid.I have been a self tought artist for 15+ years and I am doing OK.,I would have loved an apprenticship but it simply was not available here so I just jumped in.you can learn on your own,it sux but it's possible,keep trying and fuk what everyone says we R the future of this industy if they will not help us then it is our responsibility to move forward on our own.lots of love ,Klute Kalevra,Underground graffix,Wi.


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Posted by Luv2Tatt2 from IP: 24.79.101.16 on 12/22/09
Canada

Hello everyone!
I have been reading this topic and there seems to be a lot of mixed reactions to the subject so i thought it may be good to hear from someone who has been on all sides of the spectrum. My story is like most tattooist wannabes, been doing art since i could hold a crayon and loved tattoos. My story begins right after high school (class of 93) Tattoos were still taboo and the internet was still at its infancy so the only way for anyone to get any info on tattoos was the magazine rack. Being from a small city there were only 2 or 3 shops and they were either owned by bikers or body mod guys. If you were not friends with them your chances of getting in were zero and yes i did try. After coming to the conclusion that Tattooist was not a career option for me i moved on. I had jobs in almost every trade or profession you can think of from dish washing to realistate. Then in 2002 i decided to stop working for someone else and open my own business. No not a Tattoo shop but a restaurant. The beginning was really rough then word of mouth spread, business picked up and soon after we opened a new location in a much more trendier part of town. Now at this time the city had grown, the internet had blown up ,tattoos became mainstream (Miami Ink, H&H) and there was 7-8 shops in the city. 3 of them relatively close to my restaurant and most the Artists were regulars that i would see almost daily (yes my food is that fucking good! :)) Seeing the awsome work they had it sparked my interest in Tattooing again so i began to ask questions, stuff like "what do i need to do to become a Tattoo artist and where do i start?" and i much like this forum i got mixed reactions some said "work on a portfolio then canvass for an apprenticeship" others said "i dont need an apprenticeship just get work done, watch and ask questions ." so i took all the advice. I went and got work done (almost 2 full sleeves within a year), enrolled in art school and worked on my portfolio. When i finally had a decent enough portfolio i went in search of an apprenticeship, i need to add that at this time i had just gotten married also bought a new house, car, dog, running a restaurant and had a beautiful baby girl so i was in debt and FUCKING BUSY! (sorry for the language but i feel i need to emphasize some things) Now i didn't want to just go to any shop i wanted to be at a shop where i loved the work that was being done there, but unfortunately those shops were full or not interested in teaching the competition which i found to be very discouraging. After several doors being closed on me i decided to buy my own equipment and teach myself. A tattooist i had befriended the one who told me that i didn't need an apprenticeship, advised me not to buy cheap kits from ebay but to buy quality stuff from respected suppliers he even let me say that i worked at his shop so i could do so. A few thousand dollars later i had a complete set up no expense was spared. My house was buzzing with the unforgiving snap snap snap of fake skin driving my wife crazy. For the record and in my opinion FAKE SKIN FUCKING SUCKS! i bought a box of that shit and its nowhere near the feel of real skin. Anywho some of my friends got wind that i was trying to become a tattooist and a couple of them offered up their virgin skin. I debated it for a really long time then decided that i would go for it i though i had to start somewhere and at the time i was also kind of vexed at the tattoo industry for being so closed door. (sound familiar?) i searched the net high and low and bought everything Tattooing related, you name it, i bought it. every book , every video and i absorbed it all. Being very aware of the health issues i started by using disposables but i found disposables to be counterproductive so i purchased a real autoclave. These were all things that i followed from the books or videos from the internet asking questions and watching live I made sure that i had all the bio barriers a separate room with a sink, bio bin, message table, etc etc. i basically had a fully functional shop in my house, no expense was spared. I took every precaution possible to be as sterile as possible. I realize that most homeschoolers probably wont have the funding to go full boar like i did but i guess all i can say is tattooing is not cheap make sure u can afford to start (equipment+Health safety)before you do a. I must be very clear on one issue and that is "i am in no way into tattooing for the money" i just want to be the best tattoo artist i can be plain and simple. I was very particular about which projects i would take on, i never took on anything i felt was over my head and i never pushed my work for the sake of getting paid. Doing 2 or 3 a month the work i was turning out was decent, no blow outs good lines mediocre shading (to be honest) but it was not improving and some definitely needed touch ups more often than not. Frustrated and quite frankly burnt out from the amount of time and money spent to just be average skill, i was at a loss. Then it happened riding my motorcycle home from the restaurant i got into a bad accident which almost cost me my life sitting in the hospital bed i reevaluated my life and what i wanted from it. It became clear. I knew that if i wanted to be great i needed to be at a shop and get an apprenticeship so i made the tough decision to stop taking home projects, hire a manager for my restaurant and jump into becoming not just a guy that tattoos but a professional tattoo artist (there is a BIG difference). So i worked on my portfolio Again and began yet another quest to get that elusive apprenticeship.By This time there was 12-13 shops in the city and all were feeling the pinch of shop saturation. Some shops some were shady, some were scratcher shops, some wanted thousands of dollars for apprenticeships and after doing my research it became evident that it was all a money grab. but that did not deter me i was not gonna give up this time, Tattooing is what i was born to do (I know it deep in my soul) i will do it no matter what! Just when i almost lost all hope, i was driving home one day and noticed out of the corner of my eye a sign on a storefront window in big bold black letters "TATTOOS". what!? It was a new shop that had opened up a couple blocks from my house, i was in awe! I didn't give it a second thought almost causing an accident i swerved into the parking lot and made my way into the shop. Entering the doorway, it was so surreal the smell of green soap, the traditional flash adorning the walls, It felt so right for some reason, i felt like i was home. Then from the back room two people came out to greet me, a husband and wife. After introducing myself and giving them my story there was this instant bond. I had been looking for a serious apprenticeship and they had been looking for a serious apprentice. A match made in heaven. So i went home got my portfolio showed them and started my apprenticeship the following week. My mentor is very much into the old school ways of thinking so for what felt like an eternity i did nothing but clean the shop, scrubbed tube after tube after tube. I had to draw, draw, draw and when allowed sat and watched her tattoo. So many times i felt like i was being mistreated like i was above all this stuff (my ego was the hardest part to let go i mean come on i had my own business with 15 employees why the hell am i fucking scrubbing toilets!) It was all about respect, Respect for the industry respect for the art its not about being the shop bitch its about sharing a common bond, its about being able to say "I love it so much that i was willing to do anything to have it and that's why i deserve it" and i think that's what separates the great artists from the mediocre ones, not that i am a great artist in any way but that is a goal that i am focusing on like a lazer and whether i will be or not doesn't matter, the journey is the destination, it is for me at least. A year later I have finally been given the go ahead to take on clients, still washing tubes still scrubbing toilets at least until i can get full time clientele and until we can find someone else to take over. Its a small shop only 4 rooms but i wouldn't have it any other way. Back to the whole reason why i wrote this biography lol sorry i got carried away .
Is being self taught a way to learn to tattoo... yes it is but its neither a good way to learn or the right way. The knowledge that a proper mentor can teach you is worth more than all the internet books and videos combined.This industry does have a really dark side but if you look past that and focus on your goals, with ALOT of determination and a little bit of luck the Universe has no choice but to answer your call i am proof of that. When the student is ready the teacher will come.


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RE:TATTOO APRENTISHIP101

Posted by Luv2Tatt2 from IP: 24.79.101.16 on 12/22/09
Canada

Hello everyone!
I have been reading this topic and there seems to be a lot of mixed reactions to the subject so i thought it may be good to hear from someone who has been on all sides of the spectrum. My story is like most tattooist wannabes, been doing art since i could hold a crayon and loved tattoos. My story begins right after high school (class of 93) Tattoos were still taboo and the internet was still at its infancy so the only way for anyone to get any info on tattoos was the magazine rack. Being from a small city there were only 2 or 3 shops and they were either owned by bikers or body mod guys. If you were not friends with them your chances of getting in were zero and yes i did try. After coming to the conclusion that Tattooist was not a career option for me i moved on. I had jobs in almost every trade or profession you can think of from dish washing to realistate. Then in 2002 i decided to stop working for someone else and open my own business. No not a Tattoo shop but a restaurant. The beginning was really rough then word of mouth spread, business picked up and soon after we opened a new location in a much more trendier part of town. Now at this time the city had grown, the internet had blown up ,tattoos became mainstream (Miami Ink, H&H) and there was 7-8 shops in the city. 3 of them relatively close to my restaurant and most the Artists were regulars that i would see almost daily (yes my food is that fucking good! :)) Seeing the awsome work they had it sparked my interest in Tattooing again so i began to ask questions, stuff like "what do i need to do to become a Tattoo artist and where do i start?" and i much like this forum i got mixed reactions some said "work on a portfolio then canvass for an apprenticeship" others said "i dont need an apprenticeship just get work done, watch and ask questions ." so i took all the advice. I went and got work done (almost 2 full sleeves within a year), enrolled in art school and worked on my portfolio. When i finally had a decent enough portfolio i went in search of an apprenticeship, i need to add that at this time i had just gotten married also bought a new house, car, dog, running a restaurant and had a beautiful baby girl so i was in debt and FUCKING BUSY! (sorry for the language but i feel i need to emphasize some things) Now i didn't want to just go to any shop i wanted to be at a shop where i loved the work that was being done there, but unfortunately those shops were full or not interested in teaching the competition which i found to be very discouraging. After several doors being closed on me i decided to buy my own equipment and teach myself. A tattooist i had befriended the one who told me that i didn't need an apprenticeship, advised me not to buy cheap kits from ebay but to buy quality stuff from respected suppliers he even let me say that i worked at his shop so i could do so. A few thousand dollars later i had a complete set up no expense was spared. My house was buzzing with the unforgiving snap snap snap of fake skin driving my wife crazy. For the record and in my opinion FAKE SKIN FUCKING SUCKS! i bought a box of that shit and its nowhere near the feel of real skin. Anywho some of my friends got wind that i was trying to become a tattooist and a couple of them offered up their virgin skin. I debated it for a really long time then decided that i would go for it i though i had to start somewhere and at the time i was also kind of vexed at the tattoo industry for being so closed door. (sound familiar?) i searched the net high and low and bought everything Tattooing related, you name it, i bought it. every book , every video and i absorbed it all. Being very aware of the health issues i started by using disposables but i found disposables to be counterproductive so i purchased a real autoclave. These were all things that i followed from the books or videos from the internet asking questions and watching live I made sure that i had all the bio barriers a separate room with a sink, bio bin, message table, etc etc. i basically had a fully functional shop in my house, no expense was spared. I took every precaution possible to be as sterile as possible. I realize that most homeschoolers probably wont have the funding to go full boar like i did but i guess all i can say is tattooing is not cheap make sure u can afford to start (equipment+Health safety)before you do a. I must be very clear on one issue and that is "i am in no way into tattooing for the money" i just want to be the best tattoo artist i can be plain and simple. I was very particular about which projects i would take on, i never took on anything i felt was over my head and i never pushed my work for the sake of getting paid. Doing 2 or 3 a month the work i was turning out was decent, no blow outs good lines mediocre shading (to be honest) but it was not improving and some definitely needed touch ups more often than not. Frustrated and quite frankly burnt out from the amount of time and money spent to just be average skill, i was at a loss. Then it happened riding my motorcycle home from the restaurant i got into a bad accident which almost cost me my life sitting in the hospital bed i reevaluated my life and what i wanted from it. It became clear. I knew that if i wanted to be great i needed to be at a shop and get an apprenticeship so i made the tough decision to stop taking home projects, hire a manager for my restaurant and jump into becoming not just a guy that tattoos but a professional tattoo artist (there is a BIG difference). So i worked on my portfolio Again and began yet another quest to get that elusive apprenticeship.By This time there was 12-13 shops in the city and all were feeling the pinch of shop saturation. Some shops some were shady, some were scratcher shops, some wanted thousands of dollars for apprenticeships and after doing my research it became evident that it was all a money grab. but that did not deter me i was not gonna give up this time, Tattooing is what i was born to do (I know it deep in my soul) i will do it no matter what! Just when i almost lost all hope, i was driving home one day and noticed out of the corner of my eye a sign on a storefront window in big bold black letters "TATTOOS". what!? It was a new shop that had opened up a couple blocks from my house, i was in awe! I didn't give it a second thought almost causing an accident i swerved into the parking lot and made my way into the shop. Entering the doorway, it was so surreal the smell of green soap, the traditional flash adorning the walls, It felt so right for some reason, i felt like i was home. Then from the back room two people came out to greet me, a husband and wife. After introducing myself and giving them my story there was this instant bond. I had been looking for a serious apprenticeship and they had been looking for a serious apprentice. A match made in heaven. So i went home got my portfolio showed them and started my apprenticeship the following week. My mentor is very much into the old school ways of thinking so for what felt like an eternity i did nothing but clean the shop, scrubbed tube after tube after tube. I had to draw, draw, draw and when allowed sat and watched her tattoo. So many times i felt like i was being mistreated like i was above all this stuff (my ego was the hardest part to let go i mean come on i had my own business with 15 employees why the hell am i fucking scrubbing toilets!) It was all about respect, Respect for the industry respect for the art its not about being the shop bitch its about sharing a common bond, its about being able to say "I love it so much that i was willing to do anything to have it and that's why i deserve it" and i think that's what separates the great artists from the mediocre ones, not that i am a great artist in any way but that is a goal that i am focusing on like a lazer and whether i will be or not doesn't matter, the journey is the destination, it is for me at least. A year later I have finally been given the go ahead to take on clients, still washing tubes still scrubbing toilets at least until i can get full time clientele and until we can find someone else to take over. Its a small shop only 4 rooms but i wouldn't have it any other way. Back to the whole reason why i wrote this biography lol sorry i got carried away .
Is being self taught a way to learn to tattoo... yes it is but its neither a good way to learn or the right way. The knowledge that a proper mentor can teach you is worth more than all the internet books and videos combined.This industry does have a really dark side but if you look past that and focus on your goals, with ALOT of determination and a little bit of luck the Universe has no choice but to answer your call i am proof of that. When the student is ready the teacher will come.


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RE:TATTOO APRENTISHIP101

Posted by Luv2Tatt2 from IP: 24.79.101.16 on 12/22/09
Canada

Hello everyone!
I have been reading this topic and there seems to be a lot of mixed reactions to the subject so i thought it may be good to hear from someone who has been on all sides of the spectrum. My story is like most tattooist wannabes, been doing art since i could hold a crayon and loved tattoos. My story begins right after high school (class of 93) Tattoos were still taboo and the internet was still at its infancy so the only way for anyone to get any info on tattoos was the magazine rack. Being from a small city there were only 2 or 3 shops and they were either owned by bikers or body mod guys. If you were not friends with them your chances of getting in were zero and yes i did try. After coming to the conclusion that Tattooist was not a career option for me i moved on. I had jobs in almost every trade or profession you can think of from dish washing to realistate. Then in 2002 i decided to stop working for someone else and open my own business. No not a Tattoo shop but a restaurant. The beginning was really rough then word of mouth spread, business picked up and soon after we opened a new location in a much more trendier part of town. Now at this time the city had grown, the internet had blown up ,tattoos became mainstream (Miami Ink, H&H) and there was 7-8 shops in the city. 3 of them relatively close to my restaurant and most the Artists were regulars that i would see almost daily (yes my food is that fucking good! :)) Seeing the awsome work they had it sparked my interest in Tattooing again so i began to ask questions, stuff like "what do i need to do to become a Tattoo artist and where do i start?" and i much like this forum i got mixed reactions some said "work on a portfolio then canvass for an apprenticeship" others said "i dont need an apprenticeship just get work done, watch and ask questions ." so i took all the advice. I went and got work done (almost 2 full sleeves within a year), enrolled in art school and worked on my portfolio. When i finally had a decent enough portfolio i went in search of an apprenticeship, i need to add that at this time i had just gotten married also bought a new house, car, dog, running a restaurant and had a beautiful baby girl so i was in debt and FUCKING BUSY! (sorry for the language but i feel i need to emphasize some things) Now i didn't want to just go to any shop i wanted to be at a shop where i loved the work that was being done there, but unfortunately those shops were full or not interested in teaching the competition which i found to be very discouraging. After several doors being closed on me i decided to buy my own equipment and teach myself. A tattooist i had befriended the one who told me that i didn't need an apprenticeship, advised me not to buy cheap kits from ebay but to buy quality stuff from respected suppliers he even let me say that i worked at his shop so i could do so. A few thousand dollars later i had a complete set up no expense was spared. My house was buzzing with the unforgiving snap snap snap of fake skin driving my wife crazy. For the record and in my opinion FAKE SKIN FUCKING SUCKS! i bought a box of that shit and its nowhere near the feel of real skin. Anywho some of my friends got wind that i was trying to become a tattooist and a couple of them offered up their virgin skin. I debated it for a really long time then decided that i would go for it i though i had to start somewhere and at the time i was also kind of vexed at the tattoo industry for being so closed door. (sound familiar?) i searched the net high and low and bought everything Tattooing related, you name it, i bought it. every book , every video and i absorbed it all. Being very aware of the health issues i started by using disposables but i found disposables to be counterproductive so i purchased a real autoclave. These were all things that i followed from the books or videos from the internet asking questions and watching live I made sure that i had all the bio barriers a separate room with a sink, bio bin, message table, etc etc. i basically had a fully functional shop in my house, no expense was spared. I took every precaution possible to be as sterile as possible. I realize that most homeschoolers probably wont have the funding to go full boar like i did but i guess all i can say is tattooing is not cheap make sure u can afford to start (equipment+Health safety)before you do a. I must be very clear on one issue and that is "i am in no way into tattooing for the money" i just want to be the best tattoo artist i can be plain and simple. I was very particular about which projects i would take on, i never took on anything i felt was over my head and i never pushed my work for the sake of getting paid. Doing 2 or 3 a month the work i was turning out was decent, no blow outs good lines mediocre shading (to be honest) but it was not improving and some definitely needed touch ups more often than not. Frustrated and quite frankly burnt out from the amount of time and money spent to just be average skill, i was at a loss. Then it happened riding my motorcycle home from the restaurant i got into a bad accident which almost cost me my life sitting in the hospital bed i reevaluated my life and what i wanted from it. It became clear. I knew that if i wanted to be great i needed to be at a shop and get an apprenticeship so i made the tough decision to stop taking home projects, hire a manager for my restaurant and jump into becoming not just a guy that tattoos but a professional tattoo artist (there is a BIG difference). So i worked on my portfolio Again and began yet another quest to get that elusive apprenticeship.By This time there was 12-13 shops in the city and all were feeling the pinch of shop saturation. Some shops some were shady, some were scratcher shops, some wanted thousands of dollars for apprenticeships and after doing my research it became evident that it was all a money grab. but that did not deter me i was not gonna give up this time, Tattooing is what i was born to do (I know it deep in my soul) i will do it no matter what! Just when i almost lost all hope, i was driving home one day and noticed out of the corner of my eye a sign on a storefront window in big bold black letters "TATTOOS". what!? It was a new shop that had opened up a couple blocks from my house, i was in awe! I didn't give it a second thought almost causing an accident i swerved into the parking lot and made my way into the shop. Entering the doorway, it was so surreal the smell of green soap, the traditional flash adorning the walls, It felt so right for some reason, i felt like i was home. Then from the back room two people came out to greet me, a husband and wife. After introducing myself and giving them my story there was this instant bond. I had been looking for a serious apprenticeship and they had been looking for a serious apprentice. A match made in heaven. So i went home got my portfolio showed them and started my apprenticeship the following week. My mentor is very much into the old school ways of thinking so for what felt like an eternity i did nothing but clean the shop, scrubbed tube after tube after tube. I had to draw, draw, draw and when allowed sat and watched her tattoo. So many times i felt like i was being mistreated like i was above all this stuff (my ego was the hardest part to let go i mean come on i had my own business with 15 employees why the hell am i fucking scrubbing toilets!) It was all about respect, Respect for the industry respect for the art its not about being the shop bitch its about sharing a common bond, its about being able to say "I love it so much that i was willing to do anything to have it and that's why i deserve it" and i think that's what separates the great artists from the mediocre ones, not that i am a great artist in any way but that is a goal that i am focusing on like a lazer and whether i will be or not doesn't matter, the journey is the destination, it is for me at least. A year later I have finally been given the go ahead to take on clients, still washing tubes still scrubbing toilets at least until i can get full time clientele and until we can find someone else to take over. Its a small shop only 4 rooms but i wouldn't have it any other way. Back to the whole reason why i wrote this biography lol sorry i got carried away .
Is being self taught a way to learn to tattoo... yes it is but its neither a good way to learn or the right way. The knowledge that a proper mentor can teach you is worth more than all the internet books and videos combined.This industry does have a really dark side but if you look past that and focus on your goals, with ALOT of determination and a little bit of luck the Universe has no choice but to answer your call i am proof of that. When the student is ready the teacher will come.


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RE:TATTOO APRENTISHIP101

Posted by 4wills4life@gmail.com from IP: 75.70.207.102 on 01/16/10
CO

good stuff but i taught myself how to tat and have done over 500 beautiful tattoos, yes i drew a lot when i was young and have natural artistic talent. but i get so much guff from not getting an apprenticeship they tell me that i didn't earn it shit and then they see my work and want me to join their shop and all that jazz. so whats the hype? duh when learning you can fuck shit up but that's why i did my thighs first. everything has its risks but i still think if you got the balls and the skills go for it! i wonder if sometimes some tattoo artist are lazy and that's there way to con some kid to work for free for a year. im not baggin on you or those why are in this odd religion i was just wondering what the whole deal was? thx for your time the kitchen table tatter.


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Posted by CONFLICTED APPRENTICE from IP: 184.0.20.198 on 02/11/10
CONFLICT-VILLE

IM IN .NEED OF GREAT WISDOM!!! I will try to make this short.. i have tatttooed out of my house for some years. My work I thought to be decent and although I worked at home I had many clients and i treated my work like a professional business. Recently, i went to check out a shop and was approached by the owner. WOW! i always wanted to be an apprentice and learn the trade the right way. everything happened quick. Im an offical apprentice.the first day im tracing flash.... the second day im tattooing a paying customer.. the third day im tattooing another paying customer. CAN YOU SEE MY CONFLICT????? I had no problem learning the trade from scratch( although i had been tattooing for awhile).. I have no problem scrubbing floors ect. . tattooing paying customers and grilling me in front of them was not what i expected..I Thought I would be trained and reset everything i thought i knew before touching people. MY CONFLICT.. am i wrong? am i being tested? is this normal? Do I give up an opportunity i long awaited and risk not getting lucky enough to find another one ? or do I push myself harder and quit being a baby? PLEASE HELP!!!


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Posted by Cinimin from IP: 76.119.73.183 on 02/11/10
Chicopee

Your tattooing legally on THEIR clients? I would stick with it... You should be getting paid for your work. Maybe not a normal split at first, but something.
Grilling you? Sounds like a dumb thing to do in front of customers, but its not your worry.
Good luck!


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Posted by Kid the from IP: 24.121.112.178 on 02/14/10
saint joseph missouri buchanan

This is to Taz from Painted Angel.If you are so slamed busy as you told the person on here where is the money you owe me.i sure could use it now.i sure could have used it for the past 8 years you have owed me.1700 dollars is not a sume to just blow off.none of the people in your shop will tell me how to get hold of you.and now i get word that the painted angel is talking shit on me.funny im good enough to work in your shop how is it that my work is so bad as the people in your shop has told to my neise that came in because i told her to come to your shop that you would take care of her because you were a friend of mine.you have a funny way of treating your friends.since i got sick ive needed that money you owe me bad so when ever my baby goes without something i think of you and how you take care of your friends.


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Posted by ArtistNamedLOX from IP: 67.231.115.114 on 02/18/10
New Kensignton, PA

Hello all,

I am a young artist at the age of 19, I am going to school for visual arts at Penn State, and I am in love with tattoos! I have a few my self, I started small and they keep getting bigger and bigger as I go. Once i got my first one i was hooked and i have never let it go. I am not look for an apprenticeship at this exact moment (it would be nice tho) I want to finish school first. I know that i want to become a tattoo artist with all my heart. I am just trying to be overly prepared for when the day comes that i go looking for my apprenticeship.

My one main question is what do you look for in a portfolio? I have one that consists of some stuff from high school and stuff from more recent months. Im just trying to get a feel for what you look for in a portfoilo's
consistency? Any help will be amazing!
LOX


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Posted by ArtistNamedLOX from IP: 67.231.115.114 on 02/18/10
New Kensignton, PA

Hello all,

I am a young artist at the age of 19, I am going to school for visual arts at Penn State, and I am in love with tattoos! I have a few my self, I started small and they keep getting bigger and bigger as I go. Once i got my first one i was hooked and i have never let it go. I am not look for an apprenticeship at this exact moment (it would be nice tho) I want to finish school first. I know that i want to become a tattoo artist with all my heart. I am just trying to be overly prepared for when the day comes that i go looking for my apprenticeship.

My one main question is what do you look for in a portfolio? I have one that consists of some stuff from high school and stuff from more recent months. Im just trying to get a feel for what you look for in a portfoilo's
consistency? Any help will be amazing!
LOX


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Posted by OldSoldier from IP: 213.255.230.3 on 03/21/10
Iraq, currently

I know this question is probably going to generate a lot of spam and crap that I really don't want to hear, but since I'm in the Army....I'm pretty good at weeding out the bad stuff and looking for the good.

As I stated before, I'm currently in the Army and as of now, I'm deployed to Iraq. My wife (and mother of 2) has been interested...even though that word isn't strong enough...in becoming a professional tattoo artist but hasn't been able to even begin looking for a reputable artist to apprentice with because she feels that no artist would be willing to work with her in regards to other time obligations. I've tried to tell her that tattoo artists are people too and that I'm sure that there are reputable artists out there that understand her situation and would be willing to work with her provided she's dedicated to her apprenticeship. It seems to me that her situation is similar to liz's, but I was unable to find any other responses to her posts.

I guess, to try to keep a long post as short as I can, my question is this: Am I wrong to assume that as long as you are dedicated to whatever time you have to learn....even the most basic principles at first...that there ARE artists out there that would be willing to work with her or is she correct in her assumption that unless she's able to dedicate 40+ hours a week to an apprenticeship, noone would even bother to talk to her...let alone apprentice her?


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Posted by timotode@aol.com from IP: 205.188.117.66 on 04/02/10
PA

I have been tattooing for about 3 -4 years. My brother who has past away was also a tattooist. I am not a pro. but I feel I do great work ,large amount of clients.21 sleeves, 14 backs,to many small ones to remember of hand.I truly Love to tattoo,It makes me feel a little closer to my brother. But here is my problem, I have been to every shop around they say they all like my work, but dont like my apperiance.
This is where I get upset,I have fixed Alot (at least 25) Tattoos done by the same people turning me down. unlisted amounts of horrible tattoos done by pros are badley faded, placement all messed up. lines blown out, lines that did not take.
And they want to say i am not presentable enough to work there.
And this is why. MONEY....IF it were about a artist letting another artist do what he loves.expressing his art I would have had a apprentiship by now.But I am nothing more than good competition.
So i will continue to tattoo for free for 2 reasons.! # I love it. # 2 IT IS TAKING BUISNESS FROM THE SO CALLED PROS. In PA.


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Posted by velenose89 from IP: 66.225.4.6 on 05/28/10
Sandpoint, ID, US

I've been looking into being a tattoo artist since I was five... so I of all people know how hard it is to find an apprenticeship... at the moment I'm only doing sketches for an artist... and trying my ass off to prove that I want in this profession... so listen to him folks...


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Posted by NICK M. from IP: 76.173.75.223 on 06/16/10
LOS ANGELES ,CA

WELL I AM VERY INTERESTED AND HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET AN APPRENTICESHIP FOR ABOUT 4-5 YEARS ALREADY I MEAN I REALLY WANT TO GET IN THIS INDUSTRY FOR THE ART OF TATTOING. I MEAN I HAVE MY PORTFOLIO READY AND HAVE BEEN TO ALOT OF SHOPS AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE EVERYWHERE I GO THE ARTIST THERE SEEM TO HAVE HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE WITH APPRENTICESHIP IN THE PAST AND CANT REALLY TRUST PEOPLE WHO TRY TO COME IN AND LEARN THE GREAT ART OF TATOOING. I REALLY REALLY WANT TO GET INTO THIS INDUSTRY AND MY PORTFOLIO IS GREAT I MEAN MANY ARTIST HAVE TOLD ME IM JUST WONDERING WHY HAS'NT MY OPPORTUNITY COME TO BE AN APPRENTICE????? I UNDERSTAND ARTIST GIVE CERTAIN PEOPLE CHANCES AND THEY GET FUCKED OVER BECAUSE THE PERSON GIVES UP HALF WAY IN ORTHEIR JUST A SHITTY APPRENTICE BUT I GAURENTEE THIS IS WHAT I REALLY TRUELY WANT TO DO AND I WILL PUT MY HEART AND SOUL INTO TATTOING I JUST WANT MY CHANCE CAN YOU HELP ME OUT???????


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Posted by JayBones from IP: 72.208.140.160 on 07/17/10
Mesa, AZ USA

I did my first tatoo in prison. Where if you F-'d up you got your ass kicked! & the threat of the cops walking in & busting you & making you stay there longer was constant. With very little guidance from my people who saw me as a threat on their hustle. Lemme tell you..You've gotta realy want it! I spent alot of time watching the few that would offer help, soaking in every tastey morsel of knowledge like a freakin sponge. Alot of trial & error but all my clientele were cool with it cuz they knew what time it was.Always honest & straight forward about where I was with my skills. with a folder full of drawings & walking portfolio out on the yard. ...And THEN i got out.. I'd never even touched, seen or heard a street gun before. I might've been in a tattoo shop once or twice. Yeah, what a differnt "world" it is. but with the itch & the heart, tattoo mags & youtube. I do well. But i want to know EVERYTHING! All this hard work & effort & fightin' with the ol lady cuz i'm slingin on a girl has GOT 2 be worth SOMETHING!!


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Posted by JayBones from IP: 72.208.140.160 on 07/17/10
Mesa, AZ USA

I did my first tatoo in prison. Where if you F-'d up you got your ass kicked! & the threat of the cops walking in & busting you & making you stay there longer was constant. With very little guidance from my people who saw me as a threat on their hustle. Lemme tell you..You've gotta realy want it! I spent alot of time watching the few that would offer help, soaking in every tastey morsel of knowledge like a freakin sponge. Alot of trial & error but all my clientele were cool with it cuz they knew what time it was.Always honest & straight forward about where I was with my skills. with a folder full of drawings & walking portfolio out on the yard. ...And THEN i got out.. I'd never even touched, seen or heard a street gun before. I might've been in a tattoo shop once or twice. Yeah, what a differnt "world" it is. but with the itch & the heart, tattoo mags & youtube. I do well. But i want to know EVERYTHING! All this hard work & effort & fightin' with the ol lady cuz i'm slingin on a girl has GOT 2 be worth SOMETHING!!


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Posted by Aaron Lance from IP: 66.99.149.246 on 08/03/10
carbondale,il, usa

I was woundering,red cross, I can go there to get my blood borne certify,after work on different shops, I have a little bet of art beilt up and I was woundering.when I get an image or disign in the hed sometimes I have a hard time pulling it out. I want to be a Tattoo Artist, I know I have what it takes, I work and a book store trying to save as much money as I can. This is what I want to do in life and I am got going to give up.....What am I going to do, I am going to shut the fuck up and get drawing,get some more tattoos, my daughters first word was tattoo, its great....

Thanks for your time


Aaron Lance


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Posted by phils_customs@yahoo.com from IP: 75.190.235.116 on 08/31/10

Hello. my name is Phil. i have previously apprenticed and graduated from it. i had a rough teaching, it was free but i paid with my blood sweat and tears. literally. My teacher was taught old school. i don't see the point in charging people, put them through hell to see if they have the heart. Throw them in front of pissed of people, and make them do all the dirty work. I'm not saying i know everything about the business but i am professionally seasoned to say the least. I have been doing tattoos for about 4 years now. I have sat in on several "scratchers" out of there house and have also sat in on several master pieces in a shop. i am looking for someone to show me how to do bright color and portraits. I just need a little guidance and explanation. I am currently in the United States Army, Ft. Bragg. If you or anyone you can get in contact with can please contact me about this i would appreciate it greatly. thank you for your time.


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Posted by BKartist from IP: 204.160.206.24 on 09/04/10
Aberdeen, SD, USA

Great message.....I will make good use of it.


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Posted by Tattoo culture is dead from IP: 69.60.103.136 on 01/02/11
Rome NY

Who's going to take advice from a moron who can't distinguish between you and you're. Seriously, get over yourself. The whole hazing culture that's come into our world is bullshit. You are not Gods gift because you can tattoo, actually your gift should make you humble and helpful. If you are using your skill to build ego or self worth then I honestly feel sorry for you, when you have love for what you do, the culture, and art, you are willing to open yourself to helping others, it is the people who hold technique and information who are shallow, self loathing creatures who fear someone may become better than them. Bad news folks, there is ALWAYS someone better than you, ALWAYS!

90% of the people giving "advice" are purveyors of questionable art and skill at best and really should not be talking but listening. It saddens me to see what this field has become between the commercialization from piss poor television shows to the incessant ego stroking and hazing. This sight makes me ashamed to count most of you among my peers. Rest in peace humility, talent, and love, welcome greed, ego, and mediocrity.


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Posted by mike from IP: 71.14.6.166 on 03/04/11
roswell GA. USA

i think you are arogant you were taught by some one art should be taught freely to any one interesed.provided they have some degree of talent! don't be such an a-hole pay it forward:)


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Posted by Midnight Angel from IP: 67.142.177.21 on 04/02/11
Ridgely, MD, USA

I've only just found this site today. I'm a student about to get my AA in Web design, and will be going for my Bachelor's degree in art. I have wanted for YEARS to become a tattoo artist. I LOVE the art. I've been looking for a shop that will take on an apprentice knowing that to start with I'll be cleaning and sterilizing equipment, sweeping floors maybe some receptionist duties, and that's cool I know I have to earn the right to be taught the art. I also realize that an apprenticeship is usually not a paying position. I am trying to find part time work to help pay for my own equipment. I'm currently working on a portfolio. I REALLY want to do this and willing to work my butt off to get there. Does anyone have any other advice? I'm going to have to broaden my radius for shops, There aren't many here on the Eastern Shore of Maryland, and the few that I have gone to aren't taking apprentices. Any input would be much appreciated! Please feel free to email me. Thank you so much!


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Posted by gabe from IP: 97.80.100.14 on 04/03/11
TattooNOW

lets see your art!


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Posted by Midnight Angel from IP: 67.142.177.25 on 04/03/11
Ridgely, MD USA

Hi Gabe,

I'll post some of my art as soon as I can get it scanned into the computer. My scanner went on the fritz. Hubby is a printer so I'll have him scan it onto a flash drive tomorrow. Thanks for the response!! I soooo want to do this ever since I got my first tattoo!


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Posted by gabe from IP: 97.80.100.14 on 04/04/11
TattooNOW

coolio, cant wait to see. I'll tell you, its generally not the tattoo worlds fault an artist isn't ready for an apprenticeship. I do host tattoo and art conventions with plenty of seminars to help apprentice wannabees get their chops up to speed... Check out the Paradise Tattoo Gathering and the Paradise Artist Retreat. Its frustrating when apprentice wannabees tell us we are keeping secrets and afraid of the competition and all that stupid shit. When your good enough, and you need to be good enough to do it perfect the first time, and work hard enough, casue its a very hard and time consuming job, then opportunities will present themselves.


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Posted by Midnight Angel from IP: 67.142.177.21 on 04/05/11
Ridgely, MD USA

Thanks for the encouragement, Gabe. I do appreciate it. I'm not afraid of hard work. I worked at a marina for years . Plus I'm getting my 2 year degree in 19 months and graduating with a 3.5 average. I want to do this very badly and I'm not afraid to buckle down and do whatever it takes. I'll get my art up soon. Right now I only have a couple of pieces done that suits me. It's not at all uncommon for me to scrap an idea and start fresh because the first one didn't come out the way I intended. I definitely will check out the URLs Thanks again!


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Posted by cam from IP: 75.191.165.110 on 04/05/11
sanford,nc,usa

first off,we all cant be everything we want. some/most dont have the skill to be a tattoo artist. if you have no way of learning near you and you cant travel, then guess what,you cant do it until something changes for you. also jus because you get an apprentiship somewhere doesnt mean your gonna learn anything. your teacher might be a hack which will lead you to be a hack . theres plenty of scab artist around to teach you all the bad crap you can learn. most people i see wanting to learn shouldnt be anywhere near tattoo equipment. cant draw much less tattoo. most portfolios i see these days are full of half ass junk as well as a full plate of ego to go with it. your friends dont tell you the truth.that you suck, why because they dont have a clue as to what a good solid tattoo is and 99.9% of the people trying to apprentice dont either. that backyard kitchen crap is not tattooing. most dont know that its not a gun !!! and you want to work in this industry and be given some kind of respect?? there was a time when an apprentiship was a special thing reserved for those who put in the time cleaning stations,trash cans,being a goffer,and learning every aspect of the machine ,needle making,pigment making,sterile procedures , and the foundation of color app in the skin, before they ever touched a living being. it was reserved for those who did whatever it took to jus get in the door. not "hey i'm here and wanna sling sum ink " or "do sum tatts". the mystic and respect for this medium of art is slowly fading with the influx of all the people opening shops because no one else would hire them. at one time you had to prove that you belonged in this industry. sadly i think those days are gone and with them goes the barrier that keeps this form of art some what in a higher standard. all the blame is not on you the wannabe apprentice,its equally shared with the crap owners who only want to make a buck off of you and will let anyone in that they think can make one. if you were watching one of the tattoo shows on tv and thought "i can do that"or your friends told you "you draw good man...you should tattoo" then theres about 100% chance you shouldn't be. if you cant get an apprentiship anywhere you go and you've showed them all your drawings and all then guess what,you shouldnt be a tattoo artist. we all cant be evrything we want,sorry . the world needs ditch diggers.


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Posted by cam from IP: 75.191.165.110 on 04/05/11
sanford,nc,usa

first off,we all cant be everything we want. some/most dont have the skill to be a tattoo artist. if you have no way of learning near you and you cant travel, then guess what,you cant do it until something changes for you. also jus because you get an apprentiship somewhere doesnt mean your gonna learn anything. your teacher might be a hack which will lead you to be a hack . theres plenty of scab artist around to teach you all the bad crap you can learn. most people i see wanting to learn shouldnt be anywhere near tattoo equipment. cant draw much less tattoo. most portfolios i see these days are full of half ass junk as well as a full plate of ego to go with it. your friends dont tell you the truth.that you suck, why because they dont have a clue as to what a good solid tattoo is and 99.9% of the people trying to apprentice dont either. that backyard kitchen crap is not tattooing. most dont know that its not a gun !!! and you want to work in this industry and be given some kind of respect?? there was a time when an apprentiship was a special thing reserved for those who put in the time cleaning stations,trash cans,being a goffer,and learning every aspect of the machine ,needle making,pigment making,sterile procedures , and the foundation of color app in the skin, before they ever touched a living being. it was reserved for those who did whatever it took to jus get in the door. not "hey i'm here and wanna sling sum ink " or "do sum tatts". the mystic and respect for this medium of art is slowly fading with the influx of all the people opening shops because no one else would hire them. at one time you had to prove that you belonged in this industry. sadly i think those days are gone and with them goes the barrier that keeps this form of art some what in a higher standard. all the blame is not on you the wannabe apprentice,its equally shared with the crap owners who only want to make a buck off of you and will let anyone in that they think can make one. if you were watching one of the tattoo shows on tv and thought "i can do that"or your friends told you "you draw good man...you should tattoo" then theres about 100% chance you shouldn't be. if you cant get an apprentiship anywhere you go and you've showed them all your drawings and all then guess what,you shouldnt be a tattoo artist. we all cant be evrything we want,sorry . the world needs ditch diggers.


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Posted by Gigi from IP: 70.105.198.30 on 12/03/11
Wilkes Barre, Pa

Hi, I read your post in regard to Tattooing. My son is very interested in becoming an tattoo artist, but we dont know where to start. He is a very good artist and has countless sketches. Outside of the equipment needed, is there any licenses he must obtain before being able to being Tattooing??


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Posted by gabe from IP: 108.8.211.222 on 12/05/11
TattooNOW

Gigi, did you read the post from julio? Your son will need to do his own research, and if hes getting tattooed by great artists and has a good portfolio and the right attitude, they will tell him the next steps he should take.

I run an art event that has no tattooing, but many tattooers teahing about art, painting, colored pencils, and such. Paradise Artist Retreat is an event where he will be able to learn and network with many great tattooers and artists.


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Posted by Bri from IP: 75.152.211.53 on 02/12/12
edmonton

first of all...holy shit. apparently this turned into facebook...is this not for helpful information?
...stop bitching!

Okay so I've always been interested in tattooing, just never did anything about it. I draw all the time just never on skin. (well i did once at a party...but that was with a scalple and a bottle of ink...does that count??)
Anyways, now I'm getting off my lazy ass and looking where to start. apprenticeships type deal. I live by a slaughterhouse so i was thinkin i would practice on pigs. the skin is different yes, but its better then "some poor unsuspecting sap!"

I been polishing aluminum on big rig trucks for the past few months till i fucked up my wrists/arms and doctor made me quit. So im hoping I can heal and practice at the same time, and not fuck my shit up even more.

So point to my mini life story is this...
any tips you can give me would be great.
and i quite enjoyed your speach. very inspiring.
too bad you wont teach me. hahaha


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